KVR Audio

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:50 pm

dune_rave wrote:I also reproduced this problem inside prisma:
Pred2 shows, but no banks/presets.
(And it killed Reaper

Teksonik wrote:Has anybody been able to get Predator 2's Banks to show up in Prisma ? I have the feeling they may have to update Prisma to accommodate P2's new patch system.

You can of course call up P2's GUI from within Prisma and choose patches that way but it does get tiresome after awhile.

3 or 4 instances of Predator 2 layered together sound pretty awesome especially with Prisma's added FX etc......

Same problem here with prisma an Preadator2.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:52 pm

exmatproton wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Oh I agree, incremental sizing would be wonderful but it is what it is now.

I can use the Big Screen for patch programming in one DAW on my studio computer so it works for me here but I do sympathize with those who find it too big or too small.
Sure. I am not (really) complaining either. Using FL Studio, so the big ui is fitting perfectly @ 1080p @ 100%
But still, improvements can be made.

That being said, this synth is awesome. The sound...........i love it.

Has the sound improved so much? P1 didn't sound that good in my view, I only bought it in order to get the cheap upgrade, hoping P2 would be much better in terms of sound quality.
But given the GUI I might try to sell P1 anyway because from people's descriptions and the pixel size P2 will be useless to me. Dunno if Predator is NFR, though, as I bought it used.

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:57 pm

It sounds a lot better to me - the dry sound is "fuller"/more analog sounding, especially when using the edge mode filter distortion.

Then there's all that new user waveform/additive goodness and the movement-recordable xy pad found in the other RP stuff and this is looking a lot more useful than I was expecting.

As ever, for me it's the JoMal presets that really show this off.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:30 pm

Just tried the same preset in Predator and Pred2 if I hear difference,
but I didn't hear any difference.
The preset was: classic synth 01/synth: unisono synco

It's a bit hard to compare same presets, because they can be found at different places in the two manager screen...

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:52 pm

dune_rave wrote:Just tried the same preset in Predator and Pred2 if I hear difference,
but I didn't hear any difference.
The preset was: classic synth 01/synth: unisono synco

It's a bit hard to compare same presets, because they can be found at different places in the two manager screen...

Did you play with the different parameters, like cutoff, res and env's? Because to me, the filters do sound richer, in some sense.

I must admit that i love the original pred as well, but the extra's in pred2 give me more sonic workroom and i guess that is what makes the sound more complete as well.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:20 pm

does someone know if Rob Papen eXplorer 4 Upgrade from eXplorer 3 is somewhere available? JRR is sold out and i bought accidentally predator 2 upgrade but cannot upgrade seperately when bought explorer 3.... kinda stupid cause i dont want RP Verb...

OneOfManyPauls · Post by **OneOfManyPauls** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:27 pm

Caine123 wrote:does someone know if Rob Papen eXplorer 4 Upgrade from eXplorer 3 is somewhere available? JRR is sold out and i bought accidentally predator 2 upgrade but cannot upgrade seperately when bought explorer 3.... kinda stupid cause i dont want RP Verb...

https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... explorer-3

$65 in cart.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:29 pm

OneOfManyPauls wrote:
Caine123 wrote:does someone know if Rob Papen eXplorer 4 Upgrade from eXplorer 3 is somewhere available? JRR is sold out and i bought accidentally predator 2 upgrade but cannot upgrade seperately when bought explorer 3.... kinda stupid cause i dont want RP Verb...
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... explorer-3

$65 in cart.

you were faster

, just wanted to edit, thanks, if anyone wants the predator 2 upgrade NEW unused pm me!

dblock · Post by **dblock** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:03 pm

Bought the upgrade.Installed no problem on my windows 7 using Cubase8.
I'm a preset guy so the vast number of presets is number one for me along with instant loading and reasonable cpu hit.
I'll probably play with the arp and see what's up with that too.
Sound wise, I compared a bunch of presets with Pedator1 presets and to my ears,some predator2 presets sound are a bit tighter, some slightly thicker and some exactly the same. The presets that are imo improved,the improvement is subtle. Some presets sound abit analogy-like smooth which I like. The x-y pad Ala FM-8 or Kore2 is very cool.Like getting even more presets.
Predator2 is still dark and still ugly imo which is disappointing but I'm over it for $50.

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:14 am

Are we limited to quick linking 1 modulation destination at a time using the right-click menu? For instance: I right-click a parameter and choose 'Modulate by' - LFO1. Good; that appears in the ENV/LFO/PB tab. Repeat again with another parameter. I expect to have both controls now assigned to LFO1. However, the most recent selection overwrites the first (in the ENV tab). Neither appear in MOD section, just the last selected destination appears in the ENV tab.

Is this intended? It's not really intuitive. What I expect to happen is that both parameters are now assigned to the modulator, the first assignment in the ENV tab, any further ones in the MOD section.

I can use the MOD tab, but I thought the right-click menu would be a quicker way to assign multiple destinations to one modulator whist neither the MOD or ENV/LFO/PB tabs are in view. Which is another thing: could you not make the ENV tab open if I assign modulation to an envelope? Would speed things up a bit.

Thanks.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:40 pm

Still no demo? silly

Taurus · Post by **Taurus** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:26 pm

Demo will be come in one or two weeks.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:18 am

I jumped in and updated version 1 to 2 after the support kindly solved my problem with the coupon.

For the size, I believe it needs a middle resolution between the small and big. I thought the FHD (1920x1080) is the most standard on desktops while (1366x768) is the most common still with PC Laptops! I don't know what and how the graphic designers plan the measurements of their design!

The GUI is ok. It's functional but not beautiful as I imagined. The black background seems like washed colour

Anyway, comparing the colours and design with version 1, of course version 1 is much better. The colours and shadows in v1 are nicer. There was also details in the drawing more than v2. V2 seems like a rushed product, but I hope after some time, they update the GUI with better graphics/fonts and colours. It also seems very busy in advanced mode!

The sound, I love it. I'm glad that it kept mostly the character of version 1 but added essential sound design tools. Now, it can do wonderful ambient pads and complex sounds, not that in version 1 we can't, but with XY control/programming, it is a very welcome addition

The presets are great! I think they are from the best (if not the best) presets I have ever heard. After all, I am very happy that I did upgraded. Fantastic synth and one of my absolute favourites

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:51 am

The knobs Handling is Strange. Not smooth. At All..... Just played with it an hour and the New Browser is nice but also feels Alpha/Beta...

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:51 am

The knobs Handling is Strange. Not smooth. At All..... Just played with it an hour and the New Browser is nice but also feels Alpha/Beta...

Rob Papen Predator 2 will coming on 25 November :)