LuSH-101

[kylie]

the first plugin I experienced to crash my savihost reliably...

I tested 2 different windows xp sp3 installations, one virtual, one physical.
clicking the pitchbend wheel after ack'ing the demo window instantly closes savihost. lush itself has no sound at all, and changing the presets seems working at first, slowly freezing savihost after some clicks. pressed keys (gui) often flicker, sometimes keys remain pressed down, had up to 4 pressed keys, until savihost freezes. the preset browser opens, but the moment I choose one it doesn't respond anymore.

within a spontaenously installed cantabile free lush seems to work without issue, though.

I test lots! of plugins with savihost first, and never! had such issues.
there's (still) something rotten in the state of denmark...

[Igro]

My first impression (I've never tried the real sh-101 ):

Pros:
1. Fantastic presets! You can find a really quality modern stuff in it(the most interesting are by Sebastian, good job)

2. Really fast attack in AMP section(one of the best IMO)

3. Quality effects

4. Pretty fast modulation

5. Easy to use

Cons:

1. CPU hog

2. The decay envelope is decaying unevenly(But then maybe SH-101 had it as well)

3. Small GUI elements. Hard to read.

[Crackbaby]

....

I would have been very happy with 1 layer and a reduced price tbh.

Word of warning, all of the above is based on first impressions obviously.

Indeed. Sort GUI out, reduce features to SH-101 spec/mode, reduce price to TAL's UNO-LX and you got a deal D16 ...

I find it to sound really good, but not askingprice-good. No "not hardware" synths do in my opinion. It's just silly to charge this considering the target audience with a, for the company, copy/paste product. Maybe they know something about economics that i don't.

The filter sounds really nice at 3/4 resonance ... it's like the sun coming up on a desolate planet And there the demo reminder popped up removing me from my visual fantasy.

Edit: The chorus is great!!! The sync sounds wonderful! (on my second 15 min)

Well, it goes to show how a dumb demo limitation can put off a buyer. Whenever i start to like it, that damn demobanner pops up. What would be even more brilliant is to have a click ticking louder and louder the closer you get to the 15 min.

[pdxindy]

The way modulation works is kinda odd... or maybe buggy

I want to add some noise and scale it across the keyboard so there is more noise on low notes and less on high notes

Okay, take the default patch, turn up noise a bit, then go to mod matrix page and add a modulation, select pitch as source and noise volume as target and set it all the way to -1

Now drag the noise slider up and down through its whole range (while holding a note)... it gets noisy and quiet and noisy and quiet

seems buggy to me...

[JimmiG]

The point is: The market is filled with synths that sound really good so to make me buy something it will have to be exemplary in sound and features.

Exactly. It's not a case of Lush-101 being a bad product. I'd say it's on par with some of the ones you mentioned, and if I didn't already own many of them, I'd definitely consider it. But I can't think of a single sound where I *need* this particular synth to achieve a particular sound.

I wonder if we've reached the point where it just doesn't make sense for developers to release any new VA synths. In the end, a low-pass resonant filter sweep fundamentally sounds the same on any synth, it's just a matter of slight tonal variations. It sounded OK on the Nord Lead 15+ years ago, and it sounds pretty sweet with Diva. Either would work just fine in a mix.

[pdxindy]

The preset 'cellos unison' gives me crackles with 1 note

[Crackbaby]

*snip for spacesaving*
I wonder if we've reached the point where it just doesn't make sense for developers to release any new VA synths. In the end, a low-pass resonant filter sweep fundamentally sounds the same on any synth, it's just a matter of slight tonal variations. It sounded OK on the Nord Lead 15+ years ago, and it sounds pretty sweet with Diva. Either would work just fine in a mix.

Nord Lead's filters were never that great, were they? They sounded like Nord Lead and .. i don't know, i just never really liked them. But things were different back then.. Four synths in one, knobs that would - with the use of magic i presume - move when changed presets. It had a lot of things going for it!

Im sure going to buy the next (sensible priced) analog emulation that comes out. I hope it's an SH-101


ps. i have discoveryPRO so my nord lead emulation is secured

[BDeep]

The filter sounds really nice at 3/4 resonance ... it's like the sun coming up on a desolate planet And there the demo reminder popped up removing me from my visual fantasy.

Edit: The chorus is great!!! The sync sounds wonderful! (on my second 15 min)

Well, it goes to show how a dumb demo limitation can put off a buyer. Whenever i start to like it, that damn demobanner pops up. What would be even more brilliant is to have a click ticking louder and louder the closer you get to the 15 min.

Re: sound, yes, that is exactly why I really wanted a 101 clone. And I don't mind the extra features, they really do a lot to an otherwise very basic synth. Oh and I'm still not convinced by the supersaw, but the unison can be very brutal (D16, should have gone for raw instead of lush!!!!)

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Cyforce]

The filter sounds really nice at 3/4 resonance ... it's like the sun coming up on a desolate planet And there the demo reminder popped up removing me from my visual fantasy.

Edit: The chorus is great!!! The sync sounds wonderful! (on my second 15 min)

Well, it goes to show how a dumb demo limitation can put off a buyer. Whenever i start to like it, that damn demobanner pops up. What would be even more brilliant is to have a click ticking louder and louder the closer you get to the 15 min.

Re: sound, yes, that is exactly why I really wanted a 101 clone. And I don't mind the extra features, they really do a lot to an otherwise very basic synth. Oh and I'm still not convinced by the supersaw, but the unison can be very brutal (D16, should have gone for raw instead of lush!!!!)

A raw lush? Hmm like a 1 layer version? Would be also interesting for many user's i guess.

[pdxindy]

I'm getting some very enjoyable sounds... filter resonance has some lovely character...

[metrosonic]

For me the is one of the most 'plasticy' VA's I've heard in a long time & the processor overhead is far too high for the quality of sound it delivers.

I always think the acid test for a VA is whether you can coax some rich sounds out of it without having to rely on effects (to mask the weakness of the underlying raw output) and having had a good dabble myself, plus having gone through the included presets I'm left incredibly underwhelmed.

My biggest disappointment is the bass end. This is after all modelled on the SH-101 which was an absolute beast of a bass machine. If D-16 had delivered a killer SH-101 emulation without all the extra bells & whistles instead of just ripping of the iconic looks of Rolands legendary machine I'd definitely be a customer. Instead I feel I've had another wasted afternoon testing yet another over hyped analog emulation.

JM
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[dalor]

IMO, a "perfect" emulation of a SH-101 would blow *no one* away. 20 years ago when I was in a studio we had it sitting there and played with it out of boredom and barely used it. To me it sounded like a C64 without its flexibility (ring/sync). Thats how I would explain the layering in LuSH, to add a twist to its simple sound. Just my 2C.

[dexterbella]

My experience with this is just the opposite of quite a few others here. I had quite low expectations but was really surprised by how much I like this. I love the GUI (looks fine on my laptop), sounds great, really like all the options and layers - nice to see a multilayer synth with multi outs and proper layer/split options as these are often forgotten. I agree that the demo is far too restrictive but I bought it (with my 20% discount) so I'm not bothered by it now!

[dalor]

This is after all modelled on the SH-101 which was an absolute beast of a bass machine.

Again, from what I remember, the low end "bass" was anything *but* impressive. The 50hz hum was more prominent than its bass itself.

Please d16 post some SH-101/LuSH comparison examples to get this once and for all clarified.