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[Tappistry]

Loving the SR-88!

Indeed! I almost didn't download that one, as I thought it'd be redundant with all that I already have. I'm glad I bothered. So simple, with a great sound, and simple but effective tweakability.

What fun!

Audiothing has some of the best GUIs around imho.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Loving the SR-88!

Indeed! I almost didn't download that one, as I thought it'd be redundant with all that I already have. I'm glad I bothered. So simple, with a great sound, and simple but effective tweakability.

What fun!

Audiothing has some of the best GUIs around imho.

I would agree were it not for my frustrations with the U.I of Outer Space

[malachy5]

I would agree were it not for my frustrations with the U.I of Outer Space

What frustrations do you have with it? It's a perfect copy of the Roland RE-201 Space Echo, it's hard to see how it could be any simpler with keeping the same functionality. It's a great plug, one of my favourites!
http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/re201.php

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I would agree were it not for my frustrations with the U.I of Outer Space

What frustrations do you have with it? It's a perfect copy of the Roland RE-201 Space Echo, it's hard to see how it could be any simpler with keeping the same functionality. It's a great plug, one of my favourites!
http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/re201.php

Except it's not a perfect copy, is it? It has a huge amount of modifications. And unfortunately, because the GUI design is shackled to an aged hardware paradigm, said modifications are split between two distinct screens.

This wouldn't be a problem if those 2nd page/tab modifications were set-and-leave functions. However, there are some distinctly useful performance parameters that are separated by having to tab screens. Given that Space Echo delays are often 'ridden' to the point of chaos, then backed off, then edged forward etc., having the controls split like this is just a waste of great added functionality.

I did suggest to the developer that extra functionality might be better placed as a flip-down part of the gui (Think 'Echoboy'). This would allow all controls to be in easy reach for those heady on-the-fly tweaking sessions, but I'm guessing he didn't want to spoil the classic hardware look of the plug. In this case, he is preferring form over function.

Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this plugin would be better served by a modern gui that doesn't suffer from the constraints of it's hardware counterpart's design. I think Surreal Machines had the right idea with Modnetic, though I prefer the sound and functionality of Outer Space.

[audiothing]

Hi guys, I'm glad you are enjoying our plugins! Thanks for the kind words!

Except it's not a perfect copy, is it? It has a huge amount of modifications. And unfortunately, because the GUI design is shackled to an aged hardware paradigm, said modifications are split between two distinct screens.

Unfortunately keeping the original design but adding all those additional controls was tough!

I can try to add the second panel under the main one if it's not too tall. Maybe as an additional option if it works. I'll do some tests.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Unfortunately keeping the original design but adding all those additional controls was tough!

Glad you are here!

I do understand the difficulty. I guess that you have a love (As we all do) for that iconic look. However, right from the start your additional front panel features are a non-purists deviation. I'm all for that, as the functionality improvements are great. And, as I said, the added functionality on the second pane is all good stuff.

I can try to add the second panel under the main one if it's not too tall. Maybe as an additional option if it works. I'll do some tests.

I've thought of writing to you on a few occasions, but until I owned the plug it felt wrong to pester with feature requests. And given you'd already decided against the suggestion of the flip-down panel, I thought I would leave it alone.

My request would be either to allow us the option of having the second page on screen at the same time (For the few of us that might see the benefit, the loss of screen real estate would be worth it.

More elegant, though probably much more work for you, would be to have a limited flip-down panel; Limited, in the sense that not all controls would benefit from realtime manipulation. I see eight that are definitely useful, with another if you can squeeze it in. With eight, you already have the right width. You'd just have to add a little more space to account for the extra row.

An example might be each of the three heads grouped separately as vol/pan, then the two filter cuts:





Anyway, thanks for taking it in the spirit intended. Love the sound of this thing

[VariKusBrainZ]

^
Why not control it 'on the fly' with a controller or the parameters exposed to the host.
We're not restricted to only using the plugin's GUI.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

^
Why not control it 'on the fly' with a controller or the parameters exposed to the host.
We're not restricted to only using the plugin's GUI.

You're right, of course. However, if you are going to go to the extend of providing a functional gui it makes sense to make it more comfortable.

With regard to external controllers: Now I'm using a Seaboard, I don't currently have access to realtime control of those parameters. I might eventually end up with a little Korg knob thingy, or may setup a lemur template. Hoever, it isn't always convenient to mess aound setting up or recalling stuff when all you want to do is experiment. To that end, having direct access from the gui is still useful.

Despite my preferences I still bought it, and will have keep using it even if no changes occur.

[audiothing]

Oh, I really like the idea of a "limited" flip-down panel, it might actually work. I'll definitely consider it, or at least give an option to show both panels together. Also for Type A which has the same "issue". Thank you for your feedback.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Oh, I really like the idea of a "limited" flip-down panel, it might actually work. I'll definitely consider it, or at least give an option to show both panels together. Also for Type A which has the same "issue". Thank you for your feedback.

No problem! Just glad there are receptive developers.

I have a preferred option, though either, neither, or none it all is ok with me.

All the best

[sprnva]

SurferEQ 2 Boogie (again). Bit disappointing after waiting two months.

[Lesha]

SurferEQ 2 Boogie (again). Bit disappointing after waiting two months.

I can't see it yet on their websites.

[mcbpete]

Oh, I really like the idea of a "limited" flip-down panel, it might actually work. I'll definitely consider it, or at least give an option to show both panels together. Also for Type A which has the same "issue". Thank you for your feedback.

Have you seen the Arturia V-Collection synths that do exactly that? Definitely a nice compromise between showing everything when needed but not having an overly cluttered GUI

[dangayle]

SurferEQ 2 Boogie (again). Bit disappointing after waiting two months.

It's great for me, I missed it the first time around.

[SparkySpark]

This sounds like an amazing gift really (first time around for me).

So is it (amazing)? Like for a go-to vocal EQ?

Sidechaining this plugin also sounds really tempting and experimental.

I can't find any threads almost on Surfer EQ on KVR.