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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:51 pm

andymcbain wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:45 pm there's a fine line between cheesy or euphoric in prog - and trance in general

That's a line I often cross in my own tracks

I have very high tolerance to "cheesiness" as I mostly prefer softer, melodic and euphoric kinds of psy. But i generally tend to dislike melodies that sound too happy, like some of Liquid Soul tracks. Indeed, a fine line here, I often can't really explain why i like one track and dislike another similar one.

anoise · Post by **anoise** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:37 pm

andymcbain wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:26 pm Any fans of the earlier progressive sound here? I thoroughly enjoyed this mix. Today's prog leaves me a bit cold.

Yes. Some of my fav albums are FREq - Strange Attractors (2004), Human Blue - Electric Roundabout (2002), Element - Full Moon (2002).
I also enjoy some modern psyprog, the melodic ones, but almost everyone sounds the same nowadays. They all use the same kick & bass pattern (KbBB) and boring metallic FM sounds, almost no melodies.

andymcbain · Post by **andymcbain** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:37 pm

Thanks for the links, all great stuff. I'd forgotten how good that FREq album is!

For me the main issue with a lot of today's psy prog is a lack of rhythm. The huge KbBB patterns certainly sound impressive on a big system but I don't find them particularly fun to dance to. Some of the most enjoyable sets I heard in recent years were from producers than actually dialled the bassline down a little and let the kick drive the track - though that's just my taste.

Some of the Zenon records stuff has some interesting techy percussion going on which also makes a nice change - though most of that is a little too far down the psychedelic rabbit hole for me.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:45 pm

andymcbain wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:37 pm Thanks for the links, all great stuff. I'd forgotten how good that FREq album is!

For me the main issue with a lot of today's psy prog is a lack of rhythm. The huge KbBB patterns certainly sound impressive on a big system but I don't find them particularly fun to dance to. Some of the most enjoyable sets I heard in recent years were from producers than actually dialled the bassline down a little and let the kick drive the track - though that's just my taste.

Some of the Zenon records stuff has some interesting techy percussion going on which also makes a nice change - though most of that is a little too far down the psychedelic rabbit hole for me.

Today there is no prog, there is 145 pbm full-on and 138 bpm full-on which is miscalled prog

Check out these albums, if you don't know them already, you may happen to like them.
Andromeda: Sensations
https://www.discogs.com/ru/Andromeda-Se ... ase/532320

Sensogram: Parallel Minds
https://www.discogs.com/ru/Sensogram-Pa ... se/3590430

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm

Infected Mushroom on Insomniac channel on Twitch TV now.

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:00 pm

Spring Goose wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm Infected Mushroom on Insomniac channel on Twitch TV now.

oops just finished. I thought it was just starting but it was just finishing.

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:05 pm

Sawlead on now, introduced by Infected Mushroom. It sounds brilliant to begin with i must say.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:36 pm

MWNN is back

middle_color · Post by **middle_color** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:21 pm

recursive one wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:36 pm MWNN is back

Great to get him back. Some things i remark:
1 - intro without rhythmics as expected
2 - i am skeptical about "punchy serum pluck" bass - that's something new for his style. i recall that old tracks concentrate attention on acid lines or midfreq leads, while bass smooth or subtle

to me this track sound more like modern psytrance rather than man with no name
anyway that's a good warp up

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:39 pm

Yes, this sounds like modern psytrance but i hear some melodies and atmospheres i used to love in old MWNN tracks.

I think that's good, instead of recycling old stuff he made something fresh and modern with his own touch.

tha_man · Post by **tha_man** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:59 pm

I think it's a great track! It gave me goosebumps

MWNN striked a nice balance between modern psy beats and hypnotic melodies without being cheezy, which is quite rare. Can't wait for the album, it's been too long.

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:27 pm

Oh man that's bloody brilliant from MWNN always loved his productions

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:37 am

This one is mine absolute golden retro full on dancefloor 101 banger, share yours

Second place, probably the worst produced track in existence, but on dancefloor, wow, Dino Psaras has most lousiest production in whole genre, but his tracks somehow work on floor, just shows you really need actual something besides 101 production standard.

Third place, Shanti Matkin, absolute lousy production, think this guy made all his tracks somewhere on the road with laptop using Logic, probably touring with Dino Psaras, but yeah, he lived on the dancefloor, know what works and what not, didn't had time to actualy sit in proper room with monitors, knocked plenty of tunes that knocked the floors on the go, just again shows you need to have it in you.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:38 am

They don't make full-on like that anymore, man!

I used to love this kind of psy (and still secretly do lol), 145 bpm, groooooovy VB-1 bass, catchy melodies not afraid of sounding cheesy and silly but always f*cking cool!

Some of my favourites (some of.... I mean should I post all my favs the thread would quickly became two times longer)

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:42 am

Love this forum

THE Psytrance thread