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TheSteven · Post by **TheSteven** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:54 pm

kcisANDderit wrote:a little search hint to help with long threads (until kvr mods make threads searchable):

at the bottom of every thread page, under the last post, there is a link for "Printable version"
clicking that will reduce the number pages (currently 36 pages down to just 6) use your browser page search to make a quick search of each page

What a great tip! Wish I would have found this out years ago!

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:13 am

Thanks very much, and also you Steven

palestrina7 · Post by **palestrina7** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:42 pm

[quote="synchronizer"]Is creating a windows install wizard or Mac install package too much of a hassle?[/quote]

I have to agree. The installation of these libraries is just too complicated. What is missing is a very detailed explanation of HOW to install them. The instructions we got leave out important details, and we should have a place to go ON THE KH SITE to get the correct, detailed explanation. Every other library I own installs flawlessly and I can get to work with them immediately. I have been trying since DECEMBER to get TVEC3 Concert strings working. Still don't have it.

It just isn't right that I have to go sift through 3rd party forums to find out "I should have..." during the install. I asked Kirk for just such a page of simple install directions, but no response.

I finally got Concert Brass installed and Diamond was never a problem, but CS2 is killing me. Went back to TVEC2 just to get some jobs done. They really are fine strings. No complaint there.

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:26 pm

I'm not a developer but I can't see how hard it could be to make a simple application, launched with one click, which looks at what a user has and lacks and installs the latter, overwriting as neccessary etc.

I appreciate the posts pointing us to good file directory comparsion utilities etc. which will make the job easier but should we really need to bother with that level of detail?

I agree, the sounds are certainly there, but between the download, installation, updating, headscratching, and reliance on the goodwill of vounteer rescue workers, this has certainly turned out to be one very demanding purchase.

It will be a couple of months before I can really explore everything in the 3 sets I got (CS, CB and Diamond), but I sure hope that by then there is something on the KHS site which makes it very easy to just get started with everything as it should be, because I dread having to wade through this 37 (and counting) page thread, (which I recall was created because the Group Buy thread was filling up with lots of user questions).

Call me a scrooge, but having bought three major packages, and then getting two emails from KHS today pitching TVEC4, while KHS seems to be watching this thread only intermittently, letting some very basic questions from present customers just echo unanswered, leaves kind of a sour taste.

forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:33 am

palestrina7 · Post by **palestrina7** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:00 pm

I thought I would do a couple of quick mockups using just KHS CONCERT STRINGS 2. They are just quick hard mixes, with little editing and no post processing whatsoever. The reverb is the KHS HALL 1 convolution.

I was impressed with the KHS string sounds on these two contrasting pieces. (The solo vln and viola, not so much. I think they could be made to sound less synthy, because I've never used them before.)

Anyway, got them done and thought some of you on the thread might be interested.
... or not.

Cheers

http://soundcloud.com/palestrina7/albin ... hs-strings

http://soundcloud.com/palestrina7/copland-orch

eDrummist · Post by **eDrummist** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:27 pm

forbiddensilence wrote:Where's edrummist gone?? you can run but you can't hide man. show ya face one time...so i can get some answers.Plsssss
Great sounding strings though. Good value...but ZERO support. Wafting through 6 million pages to find an answer is NOT support. Sorry

I'm here. I haven't disappeared. I've actually been watching this thread for the past several weeks and sending Kirk emails on issues folks have raised w/my recommendations. Be aware that my consulting engagement with Kirk Hunter Studios was for specifically for planning and implementing the Group Buy and ended in January 2012. Unfortunately, I'm no KONTAKT guru, nor am I a Kirk Hunter Studios representative. Even more, I have yet to receive my own KHS libraries (I'm still running a pre-production version of Pop/Rock Strings), so I would be of little help on a peer to peer support level.

That said, I do my best to help where I can and I just got off the phone with Kirk in order to ask him some of the major questions that have been posted in this thread. I'm happy to report that Kirk assured me that existing issues/bugs will be addressed and WILL NOT require customers to purchase TVEC 4 or any other form of paid update. Let me say that again to make sure its perfectly clear: Kirk has assured me that the TVEC 4 update is all about new functionality and has nothing to do with addressing any issues/bugs. Any existing issues/bugs will be addressed as FREE updates for customers whether or not they purchase TVEC 4. Kirk also answered another question raised in this thread: customers who own multiple KHS libraries will indeed receive a discount for multiple TVEC 4 purchases. Kirk assured me that he will be posting in this thread shortly (probably tomorrow) to provide further details and address other questions recently raised in this thread. He also asked me to post that anyone who believes they have encountered a bug please send him an email with the issue and your system info.

Last, it's just my suggestion as a fellow sample user, not something from Kirk, but I think it would be very useful if someone could compile a list of issues/bugs reported in this thread by multiple users, so that these can be addressed in a prioritized manner.

- Peter

forbiddensilence · Post by **forbiddensilence** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:05 am

eDrummist wrote:
forbiddensilence wrote:Where's edrummist gone?? you can run but you can't hide man. show ya face one time...so i can get some answers.Plsssss
Great sounding strings though. Good value...but ZERO support. Wafting through 6 million pages to find an answer is NOT support. Sorry
I'm here. I haven't disappeared. I've actually been watching this thread for the past several weeks and sending Kirk emails on issues folks have raised w/my recommendations. Be aware that my consulting engagement with Kirk Hunter Studios was for specifically for planning and implementing the Group Buy and ended in January 2012. Unfortunately, I'm no KONTAKT guru, nor am I a Kirk Hunter Studios representative. Even more, I have yet to receive my own KHS libraries (I'm still running a pre-production version of Pop/Rock Strings), so I would be of little help on a peer to peer support level.

That said, I do my best to help where I can and I just got off the phone with Kirk in order to ask him some of the major questions that have been posted in this thread. I'm happy to report that Kirk assured me that existing issues/bugs will be addressed and WILL NOT require customers to purchase TVEC 4 or any other form of paid update. Let me say that again to make sure its perfectly clear: Kirk has assured me that the TVEC 4 update is all about new functionality and has nothing to do with addressing any issues/bugs. Any existing issues/bugs will be addressed as FREE updates for customers whether or not they purchase TVEC 4. Kirk also answered another question raised in this thread: customers who own multiple KHS libraries will indeed receive a discount for multiple TVEC 4 purchases. Kirk assured me that he will be posting in this thread shortly (probably tomorrow) to provide further details and address other questions recently raised in this thread. He also asked me to post that anyone who believes they have encountered a bug please send him an email with the issue and your system info.

Last, it's just my suggestion as a fellow sample user, not something from Kirk, but I think it would be very useful if someone could compile a list of issues/bugs reported in this thread by multiple users, so that these can be addressed in a prioritized manner.

- Peter

sounds great, lets hope we can resolve this. Thanks for your efforts, i was only clutching straws when i mentioned you. Still cant batch save...Anyway i will make my own personal list and compare with others..

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:27 pm

forbiddensilence wrote:You have to laugh havent you? I've had this cretin of CS2 strings lying dead on my harddrive for 2 months..! i've only listened to 3 patches...cos it takes soooo long to load and a chore to use.. But they sound great!!!

I've tried batch resave to ease loading times...nope! it won't work..error patch encrypted! What a ball ache. Batch save works on other libs. God only knows its something to do with VERY VERY bad file structures.. Its a JOKE!!!

Last but not least...What the hell is this "SCRIPT WARNING? Wrong group index in allow_group!"
Does anyone speak english?

Can someone not create an exe file to sort this terrible awful mess. Sorry i'm dreaming.

TVEC4??? Yeah right!! hahaha Great sense of humour you have..its alright Kirk, keep the money and the change. I'll live. I will learn from these mistakes..NEXT time.

anyone else noticed the Pluggers have all but disappeared?? Where's edrummist gone?? you can run but you can't hide man. show ya face one time...so i can get some answers.Plsssss
Great sounding strings though. Good value...but ZERO support. Wafting through 6 million pages to find an answer is NOT support. Sorry

Batch Resave:
Some of the "marker" files were created with a different app that caused this. It was not that I didn't want you to be able to batch resave. I just never figured why you would want to. If you want to batch resave, then just delete all the "marker" files. For example, in CS 2 violins, you have the following directory:

a 16,8,4,1 Players .nki
b 1st Violins 16,8,4,1 Players All Articulations.nki
b 2nd Violins 16,8,4,1 Players All Articulations.nki
c 16 Players - WHOLE .nki
d 1st Violins 16 Players All Articulations.nki
d 2nd Violins 16 Players All Articulations.nki
e 8 Players - HALF .nki
f 1st Violins 8 Players All Articulations.nki
f 2nd Violins 8 Players All Articulations.nki
g 4 Players - QUARTER .nki
h 1st Violins 4 Players All Articulations.nki
h 2nd Violins 4 Players All Articulations.nki
i 1 Player - SOLO .nki
j 1st Violin Solo All Articulations.nki
j 2nd Violin Solo All Articulations.nki

Delete the following:

a 16,8,4,1 Players .nki
c 16 Players - WHOLE .nki
e 8 Players - HALF .nki
g 4 Players - QUARTER .nki
i 1 Player - SOLO .nki

In the meantime, I'll redo the instruments so as to remove any error issues that should arise.

Script Warning:
Don't worry about the script warning. I know about it, and have tried to debug, but can't find the line of issue. But as far as I can tell, it is not causing any issues. It's likely that somewhere in the code, there was a wrong number of groups counter created. Luckily, Kontakt automatically strips out excess counter numbers, but still warns of the issue. Again, this should not pose any issues.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:33 pm

Just wanted everyone to know a few things:

First, the support thread was supposed to auto-alert me via my email as to whenever anyone posts. I guess something was wrong because I never got any notifications. Luckily, eDrummist called me to tell me what's going on. So at this point, if you were one who had specific issues then can you please re-post or send me your issue directly to kirkhunterstudios@gmail.com? That was, I can more quickly address your issues rather that sift through the stuff that's already been posted.

Secondly, TVEC 4 is not a bug fix. It's a HUGE additions of features to TVEC 3.

Thirdly, the development of TVEC 4 has been quite time-consuming. So that's what's been keeping me so busy. But even so, had this thread been alerting me, I would still address all issues. If you recall in years past (for those of you who remember) I've always been very attentive where issues are conceerned.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:41 pm

synchronizer wrote:Is creating a windows install wizard or Mac install package too much of a hassle?

I've looked into that, but for downloadable software that has so many very large .zip files, seems a big challenge for "wizard" type of installers.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:44 pm

brazilian_samba wrote:
Sequent wrote:+1

Is there anybody out there?

lingyai wrote:Again... are the January patches cumulative, or must the December ones also be applied?
HELLO-O!!!
An easy question like that and... SILENCE?
Excuse me fellows, but it's embarrassing already.
A bit of attention here would be good.

All updates and fixes that are available are indeed cumulative. If not, it will say so....something like "You will need to have already installed...." etc. Also, all updates and fixes are installed into the downloads so that those who purchase after such fixes and updates don't have to worry.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:50 pm

forbiddensilence wrote:Regarding Concert Strings II bought this a while back...found some time to tinker with it...and,,,could someone tell me why my divisiLive button is always greyed out?????? what im i doing so wrong? Why can't i use this frickin function? How do i activate it..arghhh!!! Thanks for your time.

DivisiLIve is only greyed out if the feature does not make sense to use...for example if you've loaded only the "whole" divisions. So if you could tell me exactly which instrument you're using that has the problem. Just give me the exact name, and I'll figure it out.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:51 pm

DarkStar wrote:Just updating Diamond and found a buglet.

In the DiaSoloBrassAFix .zip file, these two files are not updated:
...\71_Solo_Trumpet_a\Solo_Trumpet_A_Instruments\02_Trumpet_staccato.nki
...\73_Solo_Trombone_a\Solo_Trombone_A_Instruments\02_Trombone_staccato.nki

They are dated September 2008, same as the ones they replace.

I'll be looking into the fixes for the additional Diamond brass solos.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:52 pm

lingyai wrote:Just borwsed this thread aftera few months away... Isee there are December pacthes and January patches. a) It's disappointing not to be notified by email, as most devs do b) are the January patches cumulative, or must the December ones also be applied?

Good point. In the future, I'll mass email when fixes or updates come up.

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