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zzz00m wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:53 pm
Teksonik wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:24 pm Who knows. It wouldn't be an IK Group Buy without a screw up somewhere. Shouldn't be hard to link to a file....... :shrug:
I would imagine IK will want to be selective with who gets that link (i.e., only GB participants).
Yes and how hard would it be to know who joined the Group Buy and provide them with the link?

It's already up to 3243 so if they know how many then they should know who.

IK used the multis as an incentive to entice people to buy in and hit the max level. We've done that so....time to pay up.
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tydygy wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:20 pm As I mentioned I have "Welsh's Synthesizer Cookbook" from 2006 and understand it on paper....not practically yet. I watched the demo on YT that IK put out when Syntronik 2 was released and really learned about the product but as far as synth programming goes, I'm just a rainbow in the dark. Does anybody have any suggestions for sites or YT channels that explain the fundamentals of syths?
Not videos, but there are a few ebooks on the topic, check out this post >>>
viewtopic.php?p=8422799&hilit=ebook#p8422799

These books are available in Amazon Kindle format for $2.99 each. https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Noise-A ... ref=sr_1_3

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Teksonik wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:38 pm
zzz00m wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 4:53 pm
Teksonik wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:24 pm Who knows. It wouldn't be an IK Group Buy without a screw up somewhere. Shouldn't be hard to link to a file....... :shrug:
I would imagine IK will want to be selective with who gets that link (i.e., only GB participants).
Yes and how hard would it be to know who joined the Group Buy and provide them with the link?

It's already up to 3243 so if they know how many then they should know who.

IK used the multis as an incentive to entice people to buy in and hit the max level. We've done that so....time to pay up.
why would it matter if someone who hadnt done the group buy got the multis?
i thought they wouldnt load without the samples anyway :shrug:
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zzz00m wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:41 pm
tydygy wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:20 pm As I mentioned I have "Welsh's Synthesizer Cookbook" from 2006 and understand it on paper....not practically yet. I watched the demo on YT that IK put out when Syntronik 2 was released and really learned about the product but as far as synth programming goes, I'm just a rainbow in the dark. Does anybody have any suggestions for sites or YT channels that explain the fundamentals of syths?
Not videos, but there are a few ebooks on the topic, check out this post >>>
viewtopic.php?p=8422799&hilit=ebook#p8422799

:tu: simons books are a great resource for beginners and beyond!!
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vurt wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:43 pm
why would it matter if someone who hadnt done the group buy got the multis?
i thought they wouldnt load without the samples anyway :shrug:
It's just IK being IK... :lol:
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I use a Presonus Audio Interface with their drivers.
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Teksonik wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:24 pm Who knows. It wouldn't be an IK Group Buy without a screw up somewhere.
FIFY
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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jeffn1 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:51 pm I use a Presonus Audio Interface with their drivers.
PreSonus should be solid! I use a Focusrite Scarlett. Just fyi to check and make sure that the Syn2 standalone is setup for audio the same way as your DAW is... other than that I have no idea what could cause a difference. Not seeing the issue here...

I normally run my interface @48KHz, with buffers at 256 (approx 10 ms latency), which gives good latency. But if it's the only thing running, I can crank the standalone all the way down to 16 buffers without any issues.
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We've had straightforward instructions in video form available from the go (it says how to enter but also goes through the installation of a synth once you choose it). If this doesn't work for you, we have people on staff who can get everything taken care of for you.



As far as the multis go, you'll get them, I've alerted the team and in the mean time since it is the weekend I'd suggest looking in the "Download Resources" section under Syntronik 2 in your IK User Area as that is where it is for Syntronik 2 MAX current users. And no, there is not and was never a plan or statement that group buy participants would automatically get Syntronik 2 MAX put in their account as the typical behavior in these group buys is that most people have been choosing their synths and installing along the way as the group buy progressed.

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SLiC wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 11:11 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 10:44 am It's indeed confusing, because sometimes IK Product Manager shows clearly that V2 of instrument has some files left to be downloaded and sometimes it is does now show that. However, just observe the green check mark - as long is is there and it says installed in green, you have installed it. At least it's worked for me this way.
Unfortunately most S2 instruments said installed before I installed then (I think if you have SE it partially installs a bunch of them...)
FWIW (and it may not be much), I think that IK is differentiating between the "instrument" and the "samples" (and other data) the instrument uses. So, it says that the instrument is installed if registration was sucessful (and I'm assuming some small instrument was setup), but the samples have yet to DLed (Peter, I hope I'm not overstepping or contradicting.) But really, your guess is as good as mine; it is somewhat confusing (but really, these things often are; no "slap" at IK intended on any level.) Remember: nomenclature is weird. Keep extra coffee on hand. :D

Except when it doesn't say that. One exception to everything that seemed to work out, nevertheless: Noir did not say it was installed when it was registered and yet appears to be installed now that I have downloaded the samples (I have not tried it yet, just observing what Product Manager is telling me.) This has been the only case in which this has happened, however.

Again, in the spirit of FWIW.
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Cam anyone confirm this?

If you install the Syntronik 2 software, run the stand-alone program and set the Settings / Library / Sound Content path to where you want the sounds to be installed, then you do not need to select the "Install to" option in the IKPM for each synth. That is, the iKPM will pick up the path you have set in Syntronik's Settings.
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jeffn1 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:26 pm Has anyone noticed that there is a big difference in latency performance between the stand alone synth and as a VST3 plug in. It seems unusable as standalone (using the same audio interface). But, I can get acceptable latency (without artifacts) in Gig Performer). [Always open something I am not doing right].
I set the standalone to use the same ASIO driver my DAW uses and its fine. Maybe you missed that step?

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DarkStar wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 8:28 pm Cam anyone confirm this?

If you install the Syntronik 2 software, run the stand-alone program and set the Settings / Library / Sound Content path to where you want the sounds to be installed, then you do not need to select the "Install to" option in the IKPM for each synth. That is, the iKPM will pick up the path you have set in Syntronik's Settings.
Yep, absolutely. As someone posted above, if you set your paths at the beginning its a lot less hassle. In the product manager you can select where to put the installer downloads (zip files on PC), and in Syntronik 2 you can set where you want your libraries to be installed into. Exit out, start downloading and installing via PM and it will pick up your set paths. Just ignore the download links om your "My Products" area of your account - the PM seems to ignore anything you downloaded that way.

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Thanks again zzz00m! The thread, e-book and video links looks like what I'm after.

I am able to record/playback the synths in ST4, Syntronik 2 CS and Cakewalk (12 tracks all w VST3/VSTi) on W10P on Delta 1010LT w M-Audio ASIO drivers @ 48k/256ms buffer w/ no problems...I'm using ye-old 3rd gen i-7 on top of that.
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Regarding the latency (sorry if off topic), I tried the same setting as in Gig Performer and it works far worse stand alone for as a Syntronik synth. I tried various settings and it actually performed somewhat better with the ASIO settings playing internally through my laptop speakers than through the Presonus interface (to an external amp).

The thing is, realistically, I am only planning to use this as a VST within Gig Performer, so I don't want to spend time troubleshooting. (But, if anyone had exactly the same issue, I figured I would post)

Thanks for the responses.
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