Diva Vs. Real Analog

[Lotuzia]

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I think it would be wise to just shut up in this context. People see this and are turning away. Don't clutter your gold with so much dirt.
Thank you.

You're certainly right Chacka,

Like this English sentence I like a lot : Include me out ..... of this thread

I'm gone.

[Kriminal]

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I think it would be wise to just shut up in this context. People see this and are turning away. Don't clutter your gold with so much dirt.
Thank you.

You're certainly right Chacka,

Like this English sentence I like a lot : Include me out ..... of this thread

I'm gone.

but not till you've posted again

[xavier]

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I have mentioned his stuff a total times of once, after being actually asked about it - when Ltz suddenly stated that Synthix was modeled with the same method as Diva, I could not resist to point out some easy to spot differences.

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P.S.: The funny thing is that I posted the source code to the method Synthix is supposedly modeled on, here in the dev forum. Ltz should be thankful, not hateful.

Hi Urs,

The more things are clear the better the world is.

1- Lotuzia never stated that the Synthix was modelled using the same method than diva, for good reasons.

2- The Synthix doesn't use Vadim's solution. Lotuzia only said in a very old thread that Vadim's was the first to communicate publicly on the filter problem you reference as "zero delay feedback", some years ago. No more.
So I really don't know why I would have to thank you for an article in a forum I never read.

Unfortunately, suppositions are only suppositions.

Hopefully there are as many algorithms than there are developers, so as many different sounds than there are companies.

We will publish some more explanation soon about our filters.

Best regards
Xavier

[Ingonator]

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I think it would be wise to just shut up in this context. People see this and are turning away. Don't clutter your gold with so much dirt.
Thank you.

You're certainly right Chacka,

Like this English sentence I like a lot : Include me out ..... of this thread

I'm gone.

Same here for this thread.


Ingo

[Urs]

The more things are clear the better the world is.

Agreed.

I'll just say when Lotuzia dissed Diva's method as "nothing new under the sun" - because there were "other zero-delay feedback filters", like Cytomic's The Drop and what we were made believe to be your Synthix. So I guessed that he thinks we're using the same technology, or maybe something remotely comparable (otherwise it would be *new*, no?). He goes on stating that we or our "fanboys" were "spreading poorly informed information and misleading people into thinking that the wheel has been reinvented". I have never used any such harsh words about your products or anything so please forgive me for being disgruntled.

For your reference:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 71#4729671

Peace,

Urs

[wwjd]

I didn't read all 38 pages....

... do any of them feature actual sound bites of Diva next to real live analog synths? Would be interesting to hear direct side by sides. I guess I could do some as I have an A6, an MG-1 and a JP-8000 (I know, shhhh!)

Diva sounds great, my real analogs sound great... I could use either for anything and no one would know (or care) if there was any difference.

[hibidy]

lolz

[Urs]

I didn't read all 38 pages....

... do any of them feature actual sound bites of Diva next to real live analog synths? Would be interesting to hear direct side by sides. I guess I could do some as I have an A6, an MG-1 and a JP-8000 (I know, shhhh!)

Diva sounds great, my real analogs sound great... I could use either for anything and no one would know (or care) if there was any difference.

Ingo did some using his Phatty. The Phatty has more bass and of course more saturation.

Here is something that's been posted on Gearslutz, with an early beta (should still be possible to sound similar):

http://soundcloud.com/yoozer/minimoog-v ... in-sawlead
http://soundcloud.com/yoozer/moog-minimoog-vs-u-he-diva

Cheers,

Urs

[pdxindy]

I didn't read all 38 pages....

... do any of them feature actual sound bites of Diva next to real live analog synths? Would be interesting to hear direct side by sides. I guess I could do some as I have an A6, an MG-1 and a JP-8000 (I know, shhhh!)

Diva sounds great, my real analogs sound great... I could use either for anything and no one would know (or care) if there was any difference.

There were some comparisons in the initial Gearslutz thread, but those were with early betas and the sound of Diva has changed (thanks in part I think to some of those posts). I really like audio comparisons myself. A picture is worth a thousand words!

I would post but do not currently have any analog gear. Go ahead if you want... I'll listen

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Urs]

Hahaha, so true

[_leras]

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I have mentioned his stuff a total times of once, after being actually asked about it - when Ltz suddenly stated that Synthix was modeled with the same method as Diva, I could not resist to point out some easy to spot differences.

...

P.S.: The funny thing is that I posted the source code to the method Synthix is supposedly modeled on, here in the dev forum. Ltz should be thankful, not hateful.

Hi Urs,

The more things are clear the better the world is.

1- Lotuzia never stated that the Synthix was modelled using the same method than diva, for good reasons.

2- The Synthix doesn't use Vadim's solution. Lotuzia only said in a very old thread that Vadim's was the first to communicate publicly on the filter problem you reference as "zero delay feedback", some years ago. No more.
So I really don't know why I would have to thank you for an article in a forum I never read.

Unfortunately, suppositions are only suppositions.

Hopefully there are as many algorithms than there are developers, so as many different sounds than there are companies.

We will publish some more explanation soon about our filters.

Best regards
Xavier

These details are irrelevant to the fact Lotuzia has been making an embarrassment out of himself. He's the most annoying forum contributor ever, and that just in the last few weeks....

No one really cares what method is used for what etc...

"Diva sound really nice". Lots of people are saying this for good reason but Lotuzia can only say, pah I am not impressed it's not as good as this other synth... What a duck.

If he can't hear this is a good and flexible emulation and has to try to pick up on, "oh, it doesn't sound exactly like this synth because it doesn't do... x, y, z that were never claimed in the first place", it shows that he doesn't know a good synth when he hears one, and that he is incredibly bitter about someone else good work! Way to go Lotooz!

Personally I have no complaints with Diva's sounds, love them. I do have an issue with Synthix as it really doesn't get close to JMJ, or synthex demos you can find youtube.





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[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[wwjd]

a couple quick and dirty tests compared to my MG-1 and it sounds almost EXACTLY the same. That is good enough. It is all up from there, where my real analog hardware is way limited, the Diva can branch out into many, MANY advanced sonic pathways. I didn't record the tests sorry

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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