KVR Audio

peterjsd · Post by **peterjsd** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:17 pm

crimsonwarlock wrote:Mind you, one of the things people didn't like about the DX7 back in the days (I was there), was the fact that there where all kinds of diagrams printed on the faceplate. which made it look way too scientific and seem that you needed an academic degree to program it (which was actually pretty close to reality). Same with Roland's LA-synthesis.

Spitfire31 wrote:I don't think that anyone would applaud a GUI that mimicks the obtuse DX7 editing layout.

/Joachim

so you agree it's a better representation of the synth's parameters, but that puts you off the interface? or is it just the flat design?

the idea behind using the original diagrams as control elements was to make the UI (i think) Yamaha originally intended, but had to hide behind the whole single-input slider setup. it seemed authentic as well as being a usability improvement.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:31 pm

peterjsd wrote:
crimsonwarlock wrote:Mind you, one of the things people didn't like about the DX7 back in the days (I was there), was the fact that there where all kinds of diagrams printed on the faceplate. which made it look way too scientific and seem that you needed an academic degree to program it (which was actually pretty close to reality). Same with Roland's LA-synthesis.

Spitfire31 wrote:I don't think that anyone would applaud a GUI that mimicks the obtuse DX7 editing layout.

/Joachim
so you agree it's a better representation of the synth's parameters, but that puts you off the interface? or is it just the flat design?

the idea behind using the original diagrams as control elements was to make the UI (i think) Yamaha originally intended, but had to hide behind the whole single-input slider setup. it seemed authentic as well as being a usability improvement.

I am in favour of the graphical representation of the parameters (the keyboard tracking, the way it is currently, always makes me uncertain of what are the correct values for the curve I have in mind, and the envelopes are usually almost completely hidden). But I also don't like the style at all, and would rather prefer the one being used currently. So, it would be the current style (with faders and buttons, and the greenish colours) with the kind of layout you posted. At least as an alternative, this would be good.

dazarz · Post by **dazarz** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:50 pm

It would be nice to know the name of the last selected BANK/CART in Dexed... I have created nice tune using my energyXT sequencer... now I am trying to move this work from energyXT to Sonar X3 DAW and the problem is in patches. I can see the names of used patches but I don't remember which bank/banks name they come from... At the moment I tired looking hundreds of my DX7 soundbanks... So the idea for the bank name beside the patch name. In real DX7 you can see the only one catdridge that is inserted

THK · Post by **THK** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:08 am

Lee702 wrote:It could have same look as current version but with this kind of layout.

i agree. probably the current gui elements could be arranged just a little bit different.
ugly copy and paste sketch:

dexedrearrangedgui.jpg

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:07 pm

I fail to see how putting all the controls into some sort of spreadsheet configuration would make this a better instrument

The current GUI is still the most inviting for me

THK · Post by **THK** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:46 pm

imo it's just a little more clear, but i can live very well with the current layout

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:55 pm

I agree that it does look a bit clearer, and it mimicks the colouring and style of the h/w quite nicely.

I think it would benefit from borders around modules, though.

Nice work!

/Joachim

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:06 pm

THK wrote:
Lee702 wrote:It could have same look as current version but with this kind of layout.
i agree. probably the current gui elements could be arranged just a little bit different.
ugly copy and paste sketch:
dexedrearrangedgui.jpg

That looks so much better. I hope he changes the GUI accordingly.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:36 pm

Please stay focused! This is the place to start, and go from there:

But the dev hasn't said if he'll do a redesign, so... keep dreaming!

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:59 pm

toothnclaw wrote:Please stay focused! This is the place to start, and go from there:

But the dev hasn't said if he'll do a redesign, so... keep dreaming!

That GUI is one of the best I've seen. Good looking at very clear. Makes myfingers itch to start tweaking.

So, I'm dreaming on.

/Joachim

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:25 pm

using Dexed for the first time in a song.
Found a bug.

Dexed v 0.8 64bit
Reaper 4 64 bit
Windows 7 64 bit

When I change the value of the Level knob and then close the fx window on the particular track in Reaper and open it again, the value of the level knob is back to max.
Got two instance of Dexed runnin on the same track in Reaper for layering.
When I use only one instance of Dexed on the same track, the problem does not occur.
It doesn't occur with other Synth plugins that I know, btw.
Getting clipping because of that in the fx chain, not nice.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:34 pm

THK wrote:
Lee702 wrote:It could have same look as current version but with this kind of layout.
i agree. probably the current gui elements could be arranged just a little bit different.
ugly copy and paste sketch:
dexedrearrangedgui.jpg

too much empty space, knobs are too small and the rocker switches look silly. they should be simple luminated pushbuttons.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:39 pm

God NOOOOOOO! for toddlers perhaps though......

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:11 pm

We've already been through that, haven't we…

/Joachim

THK · Post by **THK** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:15 pm

toothnclaw wrote:Please stay focused! This is the place to start, and go from there:
propellerheads.PX7.png

i tried to stay focused on what's already there

layzer wrote:
THK wrote: ugly copy and paste sketch:
dexedrearrangedgui.jpg
too much empty space, knobs are too small and the rocker switches look silly. they should be simple luminated pushbuttons.

sure ... that was just a suggestion. i quickly copied and pasted existing blocks. a lot of optimizations would be necessary.

Free FM Synthesizer Dexed (VST Windows and Mac)