KVR Audio

Warehouseparty · Post by **Warehouseparty** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:27 am

Yeah they are doing a great job! Izotope would have released Avenger 3 already, ripping 150$ off their customers each release

So you are right: this makes it a lot easier to buy expansions !

Amram · Post by **Amram** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:09 pm

Warehouseparty wrote:Yeah they are doing a great job! Izotope would have released Avenger 3 already, ripping 150$ off their customers each release

So you are right: this makes it a lot easier to buy expansions !

The only prob i have with avenger is the cpu , i opened today for testing , 10 vsti together :omnisphere 2, repro-1,predetor 2,zebra 2 ,sylenth1 ,synthmaster1 , synthmaster 2 , littleone , maschine 2 soft and 3 rompllers vsti of studiolinked and all those 10 vsti together didnt make cliping and problems with the cpu , those 10 vsti together didnt get to 50% of the cpu .
VENGEANCE , STOP SELLING US CRAP ,This isn't reasonable that just avenger make us "big balagan" , i mean will be troublemaker.

Fix Avenger and dont tell me use just avenger and export to audio , i am talking here vengeance need to be fair with all modernization avenger plugin.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:34 pm

That's not a constructive way to communicate your problems, since I agree there needs to be some optimization on oscillator level and getting rid of (only wildly assumed) ilok slowdowns or whatever. At least, there are some high, uncommon CPU peaks here and there, and you are spoiling the topic. Esp. the sampler seems to be the most slow part here now, which I find quite surprising, since the least to do here for CPU?

Amram · Post by **Amram** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:37 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:That's not a constructive way to communicate your problems, since I agree there needs to be some optimization on oscillator level and getting rid of (only wildly assumed) ilok slowdowns or whatever. At least, there are some high, uncommon CPU peaks here and there, and you are spoiling the topic. Esp. the sampler seems to be the most slow part here now, which I find quite surprising, since the least to do here for CPU?

U r probaly joking, this is the perfect place to talk about this prob.
It cant be ,one avenger vsti , for just one channel eat cpu more than 10 vsti.
Get the point.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:43 pm

Michael, I don't have anything like that experience with Avenger. First of all, what are you talking about exactly? Blank instances? With GUI open or not? Which DAW? Which OS? I love Omni 2, but some patches there can make my CPU go into meltdown in Cubase 9 on Windows, while others are super-lean. Same kind of thing with Avenger, except I've never made it hit the end stop like Omni sometimes does.

But in general, lashing out with underlined bold "this stuff is crap" is a really, really, really bad way to communicate, doubly so with the developer on the thread, and is liable to get you precisely nowhere. Report your findings properly, explain your methodology, and be polite.

Amram · Post by **Amram** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm

I am super polite , i bought avenger.
I said what i said , i dont think i need to explain again .
Tried with abletton live 9.5 , reason 10 , studio one pro 3.5 .

emanuelsj · Post by **emanuelsj** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:04 pm

Guys, there's no need to lose temper! I think is ok to share the complete experience one has with the synth, not only to stick to the bright side of it. After all this is what brings consistency to the development! Ofc, knowing the problem details like DAW, OS or the GUI is important, but the simple fact that Avenger eats more CPU than most VSTis on the market (ofc, there are various synths out there), this should already be a starting point and push on the overall optimization. That being said, even though I'm a happy Avenger user, when it comes of optimization, I must admit that there is enough room for improvement!

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:05 pm

michaelbrac wrote:I said what i said , i dont think i need to explain again .

Explaining the first time would help.

OS?
Blank instances? If not, which patch(es)?
GUI open?

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:15 pm

I am super polite , i bought avenger.

still has to be proven! We have not been contacted by you yet! If you have problems contact the support. We have zero open support tickets regarding CPU consumption atm. This thread is NOT for individual support cases. I will not answer them here. And btw thats what the demo version is for: Everyone can check in advance if his computer is capable of running Avenger.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:27 pm

I still have to use avenger in a full project. Lets see how it will do. Vengeance is afaik not known for great optimized plugins but with avenger i think they really try to improve! Just check how active manuel is here.

They can only improve if we send them the issues then we can judge.

So far im still exploring and hope for my samplermode options to be implemented hopefully

tripleflows · Post by **tripleflows** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:17 pm

michaelbrac wrote:I am super polite , i bought avenger.
I said what i said , i dont think i need to explain again .

Sorry, but it is not clear what kind of cpu you are using. This is a first class software, for which you need a strong computer.

And you should submit the support ticket indeed instead of ranting... we rarely get this level of support and development speed Vengeance guys do recently.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:17 pm

msvs wrote:still has to be proven! We have not been contacted by you yet! If you have problems contact the support. We have zero open support tickets regarding CPU consumption atm. This thread is NOT for individual support cases. I will not answer them here. And btw thats what the demo version is for: Everyone can check in advance if his computer is capable of running Avenger.

This ain't helpful either. I can easily prove, by using a grain patch with 32 voices max, playing one note, which already can kill my 4 core power cpu. The synth is not very usable is such low optimized state. Fine, put the head back into sand then.

Warehouseparty · Post by **Warehouseparty** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:53 pm

I can kill my 2 86 one core 512kB RAM 40MB HD easily with one instance of Doom! Periode!

4 core doesn't mean anything, FULL specs (which means the official CPU identifier, RAM, GPU, if Notebook if in economy mode due to missing power supply...Same problem if Avenger GUI is closed? And post your patch.

By now those statements are not worth the time I need to read them...

Amram · Post by **Amram** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
msvs wrote:still has to be proven! We have not been contacted by you yet! If you have problems contact the support. We have zero open support tickets regarding CPU consumption atm. This thread is NOT for individual support cases. I will not answer them here. And btw thats what the demo version is for: Everyone can check in advance if his computer is capable of running Avenger.
This ain't helpful either. I can easily prove, by using a grain patch with 32 voices max, playing one note, which already can kill my 4 core power cpu. The synth is not very usable is such low optimized state. Fine, put the head back into sand then.

Thats what i am saying and its was discussed here before but its like talking to the wall

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starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:02 pm

With all due respect, it was a long time ago a 4 core CPU was a "power CPU". I agree Avenger is more CPU heavy than many (maybe most) other plugins, but it's also a very powerful plugin, with which you can create almost any sound imaginable.

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