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Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:32 pm

No it doesn't. It's an observation on the person.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Yes, it does.

Kindergarten time?

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:33 pm

It really doesn't, though. And yeah, you're nailing it

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:35 pm

Well, then it is a matter of character i guess. I rather discuss with people, instead of randomly calling them cheerleaders, just because they have an opinion on things.

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:37 pm

But here you are discussing it with me, or not, seeing as I haven't actually mentioned the cloud once... Until now.

rezoneight · Post by **rezoneight** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:48 pm

Folks, the software industry is moving towards this model because it makes sense. It brings in a constant revenue stream where single sales do not anymore. All of this "discussion" happened when Adobe did the same thing with their products and guess what? People complained a lot about how they didn't want to pay a monthly fee for Adobe but nonetheless it was a great success because lots of other people like the convenience of having access to a an expanding and supported catalog of products for a given monthly fee. This same discussion happened when streaming music services started. Funny how now they've basically replaced the old model. It's the same reason so much iOS software is now ad driven.

It's ridiculous to try to make arguments about cost vs. single purchase options. For the $20 a month you get access to an expanding (not static) set of plugins you can choose to use at any time. There is simply no math that is going to make that equatable to a single purchase of a u-He plugin. Is the system perfect? No but the beautiful thing about a constant revenue stream is it gives them incentive to fix things that are broken (as they have already done). Complain (nicely) about that stuff because they're most likely going to listen but complaining about the way they are pricing it? That's just farting in a breeze.

JJ_Jettflow · Post by **JJ_Jettflow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:48 pm

Aliens wrote:
JJ_Jettflow wrote:
I get it, you do not like the cloud subscription
Can you quote me on that? Or is it something you've just made up?

Did I quote you specifically? No, I meant it as a general consensus from a great majority of the post here and on FB about the Roland Cloud.

FTFY myself.

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:50 pm

You did. You quoted my post and replied.

But interesting you say the majority think the subscription service sucks.

JJ_Jettflow · Post by **JJ_Jettflow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:50 pm

JJ_Jettflow wrote:
I get it, you the anti-cloud complainers do not like the Roland cloud subscription so find something better to talk about. It is really getting old at this point.

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:52 pm

Apology accepted.

JJ_Jettflow · Post by **JJ_Jettflow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:53 pm

Aliens wrote:You did. You quoted my post and replied.

I quoted you for your cheerleader remark.

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:53 pm

It doesn't matter now. I'm satiated by your edit.

JJ_Jettflow · Post by **JJ_Jettflow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:54 pm

Aliens wrote:Apology accepted.

It is not an apology since there was nothing to apologize for. You took it that is was directed at you, which it was not. I was grammatically negligent in my statement and left some ambiguity as to who the statement referred to.

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:57 pm

JJ_Jettflow wrote:It is not an apology since there was nothing to apologize for. You took it that is was directed at you, which it was not. I was grammatically negligent in my statement and left some ambiguity as to who the statement referred to.

Ambiguity because you made your reply as a direct quote to mine.

Anyway, I've accepted your apology and now move forward. Thanks

JJ_Jettflow · Post by **JJ_Jettflow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:10 pm

Aliens wrote: So you're cheerleading for a system you know has flaws. Okay.

JJ_Jettflow wrote: I get it, you do not like the cloud subscription so find something better to talk about. It is really getting old at this point.

Naw, fixed it again. after re-reading what I had actually quoted you on, even though the statement was not meant to you intentionally, your use of the word "system" could be in reference to the Roland Cloud subscription model so the statement is fitting.