Polyrhythmic, possibly, but still in 4/4 time (or maybe 2/4 or 8/4 but always to a walking/running/marching beat). Odd time signatures are just awkward. You can dance, sort of, to a waltz but you can't walk or run to it, which is the natural rhythm humans have evolved to appreciate. 4/4 is primal, it's something we feel far more deeply, which is why it works so well.ksandvik wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2026 12:22 amMany UK bass producers are moving away from 4/4 kicks to more polyrhytmic kicks, and oh my, people can dance to it.
Why is modern music so awful
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17684 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
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- KVRian
- 799 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
Nordic/Scandinativan folk music has often 3/4 and people used to dance to that all night long.... Not to speak of tribal Nigerian music that people dance to and is hyper-complex. So it's all in the mind. Also walz music that was supposedly a big thing in Europe long time ago.
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- 17684 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Yeah, but only because they were off their f**king heads on mead or whatever Vikings drank and, as I said, they didn't march to it. Not everyone can dance but everyone walks.
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
Europeans music press labelled this "africa's version of trance music"...no 4 to the floor...lots of dancing 
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
really?...cant say that i've had that experience...harder and harder to get above the noise floor of the passionless, insincere, inauthentic, derivative and formulaic...the last artists I remember discovering organically that grabbed my attention were little dragon and goyte...and that's over a decade agoBunny_boy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 6:21 pmModern music to me seems super interesting and varied, so I'm quite happy with itksandvik wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 5:56 pm This is what my parents/grandfathers complained about rock&roll, or electronic dance music. I do think each generation should protest and make their own styles, but somehow these current young generations have not taken this up to the task.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- 799 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
And here are some drunken vikings from Norway walking to march music!
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- KVRAF
- 7082 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Yeah, stuff I've discovered recently: Aya, DJ Haram, Djrum, John Glacier, Jim Legaxcy, Lambrini Girls, Jane Remover, Brandon Seabrook.bermudagold wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 3:36 amreally?...cant say that i've had that experience...harder and harder to get above the noise floor of the passionless, insincere, inauthentic, derivative and formulaic...the last artists I remember discovering organically that grabbed my attention were little dragon and goyte...and that's over a decade agoBunny_boy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 6:21 pmModern music to me seems super interesting and varied, so I'm quite happy with itksandvik wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 5:56 pm This is what my parents/grandfathers complained about rock&roll, or electronic dance music. I do think each generation should protest and make their own styles, but somehow these current young generations have not taken this up to the task.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 15 Dec, 2022
It doesn't have to be that, no. But when it is? Wowza!
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- KVRAF
- 7082 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Never been to a goth night or a drum n bass night?? :-p
- KVRian
- 765 posts since 26 Jan, 2020
I twerk to AI Reggeaton. Sue me.
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- KVRAF
- 7082 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Who's Al Reggaeton?
- KVRian
- 765 posts since 26 Jan, 2020
There's a song about it by Paul Simon - You can call me Al.
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
dj haram...you can find more about her politics than her music...she definitely has her own sonic aesthetic...its like an ethnic version of a mobb deep dark gloomy haze...not much construction to it though, didn't move me...and most of the interesting bits are from her collaborators and co-producers...but then again she doesn't claim to be a musician...she calls herself a "multidisciplinary propogandist" lol...shtick gets attention...jus look at all the fawning currently over angine de poitrineBunny_boy wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 6:06 amYeah, stuff I've discovered recently: Aya, DJ Haram, Djrum, John Glacier, Jim Legaxcy, Lambrini Girls, Jane Remover, Brandon Seabrook.bermudagold wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 3:36 amreally?...cant say that i've had that experience...harder and harder to get above the noise floor of the passionless, insincere, inauthentic, derivative and formulaic...the last artists I remember discovering organically that grabbed my attention were little dragon and goyte...and that's over a decade agoBunny_boy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 6:21 pmModern music to me seems super interesting and varied, so I'm quite happy with itksandvik wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2026 5:56 pm This is what my parents/grandfathers complained about rock&roll, or electronic dance music. I do think each generation should protest and make their own styles, but somehow these current young generations have not taken this up to the task.
i dunno man...aya is pretty formulaic on trend...and the overly autotuned vocals...what year is this?...listenable and radio ready though...if you like some more musicianship in ur west african afrobeats...check out blick bassy...solid singer, instrumentalist, and puts on a great live show as he tours with a rotating group of really talented bandmembers
Rick Beato of all people has convinced me to check out sleep token
thanks for the list...will check them all out
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- KVRAF
- 7082 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Aya was no 1 in The Wire's best of 2025 and DJ Haram was no 5. This means I am tuning into an old person if listings agree with me (although they also had Oklou's album quite high up, and I thought it was a disappointment compared to her EPs).
I was going to mention Nyege Nyege Tapes - speaking of stuff from (not west) Africa - as one of my favourite labels but I've not checked out any recent stuff from them.
I was going to mention Nyege Nyege Tapes - speaking of stuff from (not west) Africa - as one of my favourite labels but I've not checked out any recent stuff from them.