Floyd fans only

[randygo]

I've been to a fair bit of over-the-top concert productions in my time, and the Floyd shows were something else.

I saw the Momentary Lapse tour in the Seattle Kingdome and Toronto's outdoor Exibihition stadium. The Toronto show what especially memorable. Great visuals, giant pig flying the length of the stadium, lasers shooting up to the clouds, awesome wraparound sound, and an excellent performance by all involved. One of the highlights of my life. I wish I could have seen them in their heyday with Waters in the 60's and 70's, but I was a little too young.

I saw the Division Bell tour in Vancouver, and it was fantastic as well.

[fake]

MickGael....

To be honest I was never a big fan of some of his earlier stuff but I enjoyed this. If I remember he changed his style around then, maybe earlier? and became a bit more commercial. I love "Clear Spot" and stuff from around that time, it was more musical to me. Can't remember exactly what he did that day but I remember some of the older stuff.

If I also remember right, it was not much later that John Peel said he was fed up of the long winded 20 min tracks. He then changed style and the rest is sadly now legend.


Mmm...Will have to pop out tomorrow and get me some cd's as I don't have anything of his. Maybe get some Zappa too....



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[duncanparsons]

@LazMach - sadly not a relative - I'd have cashed in on that family connexion years ago if I was!!

@fake - I used to have a bootleg of that concert! Goodnes knows where it is now.. It had a track 'Raving and Drooling' which turned up on Animals as 'Dogs'.. Also, they had problems with the hammond being half a tone flat - the transformers were having trouble keeping the voltage constant or something. Waters announced it, and made it sound like 'Well the organ's out of tune, and we're not going to retune our guitars, so we'll wait until it's sorted - sorry'! But of course, the other keyboards would all need retuning as well.. Good tape that..



DSP

[bduffy]

@LazMach - sadly not a relative - I'd have cashed in on that family connexion years ago if I was!!

@fake - I used to have a bootleg of that concert! Goodnes knows where it is now.. It had a track 'Raving and Drooling' which turned up on Animals as 'Dogs'.. Also, they had problems with the hammond being half a tone flat - the transformers were having trouble keeping the voltage constant or something. Waters announced it, and made it sound like 'Well the organ's out of tune, and we're not going to retune our guitars, so we'll wait until it's sorted - sorry'! But of course, the other keyboards would all need retuning as well.. Good tape that.

I didn't know a Hammond will lose tuning if the voltage drops...educational!

[Sonic Assault]

Spent 3 months painting this on the back of a leather jacket, in my younger days.

I think I'd have to cheat now - probably cop out and knock up an iron-on

Jez

[DaveElson]

Apologies if this has been mentioned in the thread (quickly looked but about to go out for the evening) but anyway.
By going here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/inthe ... peel.shtml
you can hear the first ever John Peel programme on BBC Radio 1.
Has 2 sessions from what they call "The Pink Floyd".
From 1967 so you'll know what to expect.

[duncanparsons]

..just to correct myself..
'Raving and Drooling' became 'Sheep' on Animals, 'You Gotta be Crazy' (also played at the Knebworth Gig) became 'Dogs' (unsurprisingly, given it's the first line of Dogs..). This was the last time these were played live before Animals came out a couple of years later. Following the number of bootlegs that appeared after the Knebworth Gig, Floyd decided that they would never again play unreleased material live - which is a shame, since they had a habit of road testing material before recording it up to that point...

I always liked Floyds ability to turn their hand to funk. Some of the grooves they have turned out have been better than their contemporary groove meisters. Listen to 'Time' or 'Have a cigar', these are incredibly funky tunes - remarkable since Mason doesn't generally seem to have an ounce of groove about him. It's the interplay of keys and guitar that gets me. A while ago, I was mucking about trying to recreate that kind of sound, and came up with this (which is more fun than a serious tune) and then used the same groove (minus clavinet) on this, which whilst it has a more Canterbury sound, still has that kind of Floydian Funk..

Overall, they turned out quite well for an R&B outfit..

DSP

[Lazarus Machine]

Sonic Assault, if THAT's the leather jacket painting then it's way too cool!

I was wondering about this thing [and maybe it's a stupid question, i don't know ].

Both Floyd and Grateful Dead are known for their live shows. And to some extent, their music falls in simial "Psychedelic" zones. Some of you folks must have seen both of them live [I haven't ]. Both bands use/used to state-of-the-art sound equipment for that special aural experience in their gigs. As listeners, how would you folks say they differ?

[fake]

Thanks DSP, that was some info I didn't know, glad I was there.
So perhaps John Peel was telling the truth about the generators. I though it was a trick to keep things synchronised.

Darn it also as I didn't know of a bootleg...

Will have a listen to the tracks later, thanks.

Thanks dave for the links. Believe it or not I went to bed early last night and as the news finished on the radio at 12:30 am on came John Peels book.

"Margrave of the Marshes."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/book_of_the_week.shtml

Well worth the listen. Looks like you can listen again or download.


Sorry Lazarus, can't help with that one, never saw the Dead play.

Anybody else done any Floydy tracks or covers?

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[DaveElson]

Lazarus
Re your question about the differences with Floyd and the Dead.
I recall in the early 70's buying a live Dead double album, possibly Live In Europe or something. Just couldn't get into them and never have, except the popular Touch of Grey isn't bad. But at that time if it wasn't pretty heavy Purple/Heep or something like Floyd (or almost anything on the Harvest label), I did lose interest pretty quickly. The "long" tracks (technical term) were okay but I could never get over the mix of psychedelic and then country. Doesn't mean they weren't any good, and of course we know how popular they were/are.
Just lately a band often cited as very very close to the Dead have become popular in the States - String Cheese Incident. I let my brother in law (a Dead fan) listen to a live triple cd of theirs and he went out and bought the t shirt (honest).
So for those that may be interested - check 'em out. A google will find them. I have a few live sets and funny how I got into them straight away, but not the Dead.
But that's personal taste for 'ya.
Finally, another link to a great show I can listen to on the net, and that's The Freak Zone every Sunday.
Last week was a Harvest label special with Meddle as the featured album. Available 'til next Sunday.
Cheers All.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/freakzone/

[Lazarus Machine]

Hello all.

I apologize to all here if my questions in this thread appeared to be an attempt to hijack it. Actually, I thought it’d be better to ask these questions here while everybody was discussing Floyd-related stuff rather than start a brand new topic which wouldn’t have had the sort of continuity this thread has. Sorry .

Anyway, to make up for it I made this WALLpaper based on Gerald Scarfe’s hammer design from The Wall movie. You can see a small lo-rez version below:



The original [1024x768; 200kb] can be found here:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a217/LM1/PFWALL.jpg

This thing will also make a nice Flash screensaver with the hammers continuously marching off the screen to some suitable piece of music. I might do it but it’ll take some time [have to ‘do’ the soundtrack and make it sound Wall/Floyd-esque without using actual Wall/Floyd samples. An interesting project! ]. When [and if] I make it, I’ll post the download URL in this thread [if it’s still alive, that is].

It was Voidoid Surrealist’s wallpaper pic [@ the beginning of this thread] that got me working so he’s to be thanked for inspiration.

Cheers!

[fake]

Don't worry, it was a nice peaceful thread and the comments were welcome from all.

Amazingly it all kept decent, perhaps its the old hippy thing.....

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[Hink]

Sonic Assault, if THAT's the leather jacket painting then it's way too cool!

I was wondering about this thing [and maybe it's a stupid question, i don't know ].

Both Floyd and Grateful Dead are known for their live shows. And to some extent, their music falls in simial "Psychedelic" zones. Some of you folks must have seen both of them live [I haven't ]. Both bands use/used to state-of-the-art sound equipment for that special aural experience in their gigs. As listeners, how would you folks say they differ?

that's the easiest question to answer...their shows were nothing alike in any way (though I never saw early floyd) I saw the dead 10 times, not one show was like any other, never did the dead do the a song the same way twice, the dead got up and jammed their songs. Pink Floyd shows as opposed to a night of awesome jamming like the dead, was a night of awesome precision and stuck to a theme.

Where Floyd was pure precision and you watched the show in awe of the the show and all that went with it, visuals, lighting, the sounds, and of course the way it all tied together. The dead shows were a musical adventure, purely driven by the music with no rules, no script so to speak, you always wondered what you would see...the two were polar opposites on stage...

EDIT also at Floyd shows the audience was much more subdued then any other concerts I went to...where the dead was an audience of free spirits who were far from subdued...they revelled in and celebrated the music with unbridled enthusiasm that came to life the second the dead stepped on stage.

[Raven]

You gotta be crazy, you gotta be mean
You gotta keep your kids and your car clean
you gotta keep climbing, you gotta keep fit
You gotta keep smiling, you gotta eat shit


You gotta be small to be a big shot
You gotta eat meat to stay at the top
You gotta be trusted, gotta tell lies
You gotta be able to narrow your eyes


You gotta believe they've gotta believe you
You gotta appear easy to see through
Gotta be sure you look good on T.V.
Gotta resemble a human being


You gotta one eye over your shoulder
Gonna get harder as you get older
Gotta fly south and hide in the sand
Gotta forget your gonna get cancer


And when you loose control, you'll reap
the harvest you have sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood
slows and turns to stone
And it's too late too lose the weight you
used to need to throw around
So have a good drown as you go down alone
Dragged down the by the stone


Gotta be sure, you gotta be quick
Gotta divide the tame from the sick
Gotta keep some of us docile and fit
You gotta keep everyone burying this shit


I gotta admit to a lot of confusion
Pain in the head is the child of collusion
Gotta resist the creeping malaise
You gotta believe in the way you
out of the maze
But you, you just keep on pretending
You can tell a sucker from a friend
But you still raise the knife to
Stranger, lover, friend and foe alike


Who was born in a house full of pain
Who was sent out to play on his own
Who was raised on a diet of shame
Who was trained not to spit in the fan
Who was told what to by the man
Who was broken by trained personnel
Who was fitted with bridle and bit
Who was given a seat in the stand
Who was forcing his way to the rails
Who was offered a place on the board
Who was only a stranger at home
Who was ground down in the end
Who was found dead on the phone
Who was dragged down by the stone

[the_nihilist]

This thread inspired me to go out and pick up "Wish You Were Here" on vinyl.

Compliments my DSotM vinyl nicely.