KVR Audio

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:29 am

tony tony chopper wrote:
and you're arguing you used photographs to create that gui?
You mean Wave's Center? I have nothing to do with that UI, it was just the most recent example. Here's a shot of mine (that the OP would surely qualify as way too small)

that could be easily synthesized, and as you're not using 3d for the knobs they could be created from a single bitmap and rotated in real-time.

argh rotating bitmaps now, that's an heresy.

Really, better draw a plain circle (Live again) than rotate bitmaps, please.
(& if you really really need to rotozoom, use Intel's IPP)

Once again Tiny Unreadable Gui elements.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:30 am

No wonder you don't like it at all.

can you read? I wrote it's a really great UI destroyed by a little crap repeated button that a programmer probably added behind the artist's back.

Once again Tiny Unreadable Gui elements

and also fit everyone's screen

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:33 am

tony tony chopper wrote:
No wonder you don't like it at all.
can you read? I wrote it's a really great UI destroyed by a little crap repeated button that a programmer probably added behind the artist's back.

No you wrote.............

tony tony chopper wrote: how someone can crap out such a nice UI

I can read, can you remember what you wrote 2 minutes ago? Can you post without contradicting yourself? Crap out and Nice don't exactly add up to really great.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:35 am

tony tony chopper wrote:and also fit everyone's screen

You could make it fit on a cell phone screen but that wouldn't make it practical. What good is it to be able to see all of a GUI if you can't see any of it clearly? Example Sytrus.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:35 am

keep arguing with yourself

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:36 am

tony tony chopper wrote:keep arguing with yourself

Why? You give up?

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:37 am

Why? You give up?

you distort what I write, so let's say yes I totally hate it because it has no dancing girl on it

What good is it to be able to see all of a GUI if you can't see any of it clearly?

Depends who, I know I can see it clearly. Maybe I have bionic eyes.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:40 am

tony tony chopper wrote:
What good is it to be able to see all of a GUI if you can't see any of it clearly?
Depends who, I know I can see it clearly. Maybe I have bionic eyes.

Perhaps you do. I can't see any of the fader labels on your screenshot above on a 22" monitor.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:42 am

Seriously the labels on the Reverb Faders look like the bottom line of the Snellen Eye Chart.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:45 am

I can't see any of the fader labels on your screenshot above on a 22" monitor.

you still don't understand that the size of your monitor doesn't matter in the problem - its DPI's do.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:47 am

come on, i have a 17" here that i use for pixel graphics where i can absolutely clearly see the edges of the pixels - perfect, absolutely perfect, and i still have trouble making out what those fonts say. i'm not one to complain, but to be honest that's way too small to be practical. it looks like you're using smallfonts-5 there... (i think you are...)

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:53 am

tony tony chopper wrote:
I can't see any of the fader labels on your screenshot above on a 22" monitor.
you still don't understand that the size of your monitor doesn't matter in the problem - its DPI's do.

Well it's a good quality monitor set to a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 and everything else looks stunning on it, most plugins, other hosts, games, videos etc. You still don't understand that some of your gui elements are......... Too Small.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:53 am

and i still have trouble making out what those fonts say.

that's because they're mostly 2 or 3 letters, not because they're small. The reasons I don't write full names are
-that there are too many controls & an oversized UI is worse
-that tabs are a solution but people apparently hate tabbed plugins
-that 'timbre fullness' isn't any more informative than 'full' anyway, in both cases you'd have to read the manual to know what it does. The label is just to be sure of what you tweak, not to understand what a knob does - that can't be written on a label, not even in a full line.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's often seen as too small, there's no news here. But we have complaints about oversized UI's too.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:56 am

no, i can understand them fine, it's just that each character is only four pixels wide, ok? let's look at this: at a resolution of 1800 horizontal pixels, on a 20" monitor, that gives 90 pixels per inch. so, our characters are about 1/20th of an inch wide. are users supposed to be using a magnifying glass? that's smaller than the fine-print on my "increase your male endowment" pill bottle. may cause manbreasts

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:57 am

I've got Ogun called up in FL as we speak and it's a great looking GUI it's just too small. I don't see any reason for it to be that small. I think you could increase the size by a considerable percentage and still have it fit even on the smallest of monitors/resolution.

Perhaps you have some High Powered Uber Monitor. I'd like to know the model number so I can get one too..........

To All Devs: please cater to BIG SCREENS!!!