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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:30 pm

keel wrote:Post your sound demo on this midi

http://electrofresh.com/midi-12986-down ... _blue.html

Arpeggio melodies are only way to demostrate superwave sound. I'll waiting. Remember do some filtercut off etc..

Edit; seems to be bad programmed midi, anyway, here is the orginal song

The MIDI is horrible, most notes are simply too long. Got any better?

It won't be a problem though. I just firstly have to match the JP.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:32 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:Well it's a given that without some kind of D/A emulation you are going to have a brighter and slightly more "raw" sound from the software. Or are you already incorporating converter emulation into this?

Nah... I'll try to match it with a 6dB LP maybe. But that won't really be necessary I think. Most people probably use the JP's EQ to add some brightness anyway.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:36 pm

parry316raver wrote:what about using an anologue modular system to re-create the supersaw.

Would this give a good result ?

Best

Rob

Well there's this http://www.analoguehaven.com/synthesistechnology/e340/
but it's a digital module.

Other than that it's tough because most people don't have 7 of the same oscillator. There are tricks to get phase shifted saws using comparators but that isn't the same thing as a supersaw. The only realistic way to get a super saw out of an analog modular is via overdubbing/layering. I think that the OP actually has some experience with the subject.

I don't know how successful he was though.

Ultimately, most people who use analog modulars aren't looking for supersaw.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:37 pm

parry316raver wrote:what about using an analogue modular system to re-create the supersaw.

Would this give a good result ?

Sure, just record the same line 7 times and you get a nice unison effect. Playing it live... is rather expensive and most likely monophonic. If that wasn't so, I wouldn't bother doing it in software.

keel · Post by **keel** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:37 pm

Urs wrote: Got any better?

Try this, http://www.nonstop2k.com/community/midi ... php?id=143

Scroll down little bit.

To me, it is better and sounds like orginal.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:39 pm

justin3am wrote:There are tricks to get phase shifted saws using comparators but that isn't the same thing as a supersaw.

Indeed, as the trick of the JP lies within the bent slope of the sawtooth and phase shifting saws only works with "proper" linear sawtooths...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm

keel wrote:
Urs wrote: Got any better?
Try this, http://www.nonstop2k.com/community/midi ... php?id=143

Scroll down little bit.

To me, it is better and sounds like orginal.

Might try it tomorrow, but no promises... I'm really slow with stuff like that and rather spend the time on the actual code

parry316raver · Post by **parry316raver** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:47 pm

i'm going to record my hardware Novation super Bass station and overdub a few instances with detune. Then mix down the finished waveform and loop.

could result in a nice Supersaw.

Rob

keel · Post by **keel** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:53 pm

keel wrote:http://www.nonstop2k.com/community/midi ... php?id=143

I try to make some supersaw using that midi

Feel free to guess synth.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6trr6e

parry316raver · Post by **parry316raver** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:58 pm

nice, is the bottom end breaking up though.

wow, i think its your own supersaw

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:59 pm

Urs wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:Well it's a given that without some kind of D/A emulation you are going to have a brighter and slightly more "raw" sound from the software. Or are you already incorporating converter emulation into this?
Nah... I'll try to match it with a 6dB LP maybe. But that won't really be necessary I think. Most people probably use the JP's EQ to add some brightness anyway.

Good, that will make me less frustrated about having paid several hundred dollars for my JP if there's a good s/w emulation just around the corner.

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:00 am

parry316raver wrote:i'm going to record my hardware Novation super Bass station and overdub a few instances with detune. Then mix down the finished waveform and loop.

could result in a nice Supersaw.

Rob

Oh, so this has turned into a supersaw showdown?

parry316raver · Post by **parry316raver** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:04 am

actually i have made some very tasty supersaws.

However, they are locked up for a forthcoming project.

maybe not quite as good as Urs though.

if the example is indeed not the Roland synth.

best

Rob

peterdh · Post by **peterdh** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:24 am

Urs wrote:I'm still waiting for someone to insist that it sounds nothing like a JP8000. But that will probably not happen. Maybe because as every 2nd note in the example *is* a JP8080 and only half of them are that softsynth experiment. So I guess, at least for short notes: Mission accomplished

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:26 am

keel wrote:
keel wrote:http://www.nonstop2k.com/community/midi ... php?id=143
I try to make some supersaw using that midi Feel free to guess synth.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6trr6e

Genesis CM..

Supersaw!