Any VST like Virus TI !?

[pdxindy]

I really do not hear what the fuss is all about. I have about 15-20 modern software synths and they can do any of this I can hear.

I hope Virus owners enjoy their instruments but I think it is some case of "The grass is greener on the other side". And really it is just a case of gear lust to know for sure.

What synth sounds like a Virus ? A Virus for those who want one, just save and get it and for the others just use the incredible synths you already have. Fuss about nothing IMO.

Make a good track and forget lusting after some imaginary magic bullet synth.

Some people like the Virus sound. Like you said, if that is the sound someone wants, get a Virus. No point to spend a lot of time trying to recreate the sounds you like in other synths. It will never be exact.

Myself, I find the Virus to be solidly okay... Once a year when these (far more common) sorts of threads comes up I go listen to Virus vids on You Tube to see if I hear something that grabs my attention. It never does. To me it sounds like any of the current crop of top softsynths. It has its own distinctive sound, just like every synth does, but that sound is no more appealing to me (nor less) than a dozen other soft synths. The sound quality today is very high.

One thing I have noticed... there are not that many Virus only compositions on You Tube. Mostly preset demo videos.

[zerocrossing]

There are also Virus TI wavetables provided by some guys, usable eg. in Serum. The filter is of course the most difficult part, so I don't know how close Serum can sound.

Hopefully not too close, as the Virus filters are nothing special, IMO. They were the main reason I abandoned the Virus TI.

[Synthetic Wav]

Like mentioned if want the virus sound get a virus , you would need many plugins to cover a virus and in many case it will be just close ...way too much hassle.
I have owned a C after 2 years i got sick of it and all these muddy softsynths with no top to reduce aliasing..let me tell you flat and aliased sound better than no top and shit load of mudd if you want a well balanced punchy mix without hassle , on a bright synth you can always roll off the hights if you want warmer..try making a dark synth sound bright and great at the same time ..way way more hassle .

[Elektronisch]

Take it from felow Virus Ti user (or to say ex user). Forget about it, it sounds great, but not that great anymore that its worth such money. Just get Serum and few complimentary synths like Spire, Dune 2 or Hive ect. The vst sound and character is so great you can mimic Virus Ti sounding patches quite well. Also for ex Serum has that "punch" that "in your face" that virus has. Ive got myself virus 7 years ago and used alot for few years. Now i only used it 2 time in the last 2 years and only for 2 patches.

Trust me, just forget it

[Synthman2000]

Isn't the better Virus versions just a 3 oscillator synth with analogue waveforms wavetables, LFO's, envelopes and effects much like 4 - 5 VST synths I could mention.

Surely it must be in the programming ability to replicate some of the sounds.

Frankly, that's the "i don't hear the difference" version. No synth sounds exactly like another. Just try to replicate everything you can do with the Virus with Dune 1. Good luck. Close enough might be close enough for you, but others will disagree. The Virus has a very distinctive sound. I don't want to claim that you can't replicate some of its sounds up to 95 % accuracy, but, hey, are we really content with 95 % accuracy? Why are we here, on this site? Why do we make music? To be happy with "close enough", and 95 % quality, or are we "GAS'ing" about the last 5 %?

That said, if you don't care about the Virus', or any other hardware's sound, nevermind, and move on. For those who do like it, there might be no alternative. Personally, i can't afford, or want to afford hardware, and i do appreciate the loads of advantages of software. And Spire e.g. sounds so good to me, that i wouldn't bother anyway. Except someone sells me a Virus TI Polar for a silly price.

Not really.

1) I have ears, check the video again and you need only check YT for demos etc. and I am hearing no magic really. Magic comes from knowing what you want and getting there using a set of tools and your own experimentation and skill coupled with a melody. That may well be a Virus or any other powerful software synth. I can clearly understand using one for live performance.


2) I understand each synth sounds a little different, soft synths included. So if you want a Virus get one. But if you are 95pct satisfied and this is merely a sound production unit of which there are 10-20 good ones out there that can arguably sound subjectively like it and even better it. I cannot recall me thinking "Hmm.. this needs something that sounds like a virus" when making music. I think in terms of wave forms and sonic colours, analogue, FM, WT, smooth, squelchy, raspy, warm etc. + processes and effects chains mainly.

3) It is 1 sound source not music itself.

4) Maybe I am just someone addicted to a synth fix.. but a $100-$169.00 synth every few months feels like a nice treat and a great way to enjoy new sounds and synth approaches.

In balance I think I would take the 3 best synths I soft synths I own over any single hardware synth. It is after all just an expensive 3 osc software synth in a box. No doubt which some people adore and great ! Enjoy it for what it is.

[recursive one]

Trust me, just forget it

No, trust me and go buy one asap

I guess, it may depend on the genre and individual sonic preferences. Virus is not the best choice for analog-style leads, where Diva is the king, or for "bass music" powered by Serum/Massive. But for anything trance, from twisted psychedelia to cheesy uplifting, it's really that good.

[koukouba]

Virus Ti is an amazing synth , i have worked on one for a while thanks to a friend.

I cant exactly describe what it was but the sound of it was always perfect ,the clarity,crystal clear, also the tracks i made using my own and some of its included presets without any hussle sounded like a perfect finalmix out of the box. I couldn't explain what it was but i am cherishing the .wavs i made during those days with it.

Many people nowadays are going the analogue way thanks to the many new analogue synths being released however you can get the same results running your Virus thru an analogue filter and keeping the ease of VSTi integration Access offers (Korg ? why no VSTi integration on your synths people ? its 2016 !!)

Serum + Virus Ti Wavetables is something you could try out , however it cant compare to having 16 channels of sound running on a DSP , and from what i've heard Serum is really CPU heavy , so i've been avoiding it

[recursive one]

I cant exactly describe what it was but the sound of it was always perfect ,the clarity,crystal clear, also the tracks i made using my own and some of its included presets without any hussle sounded like a perfect finalmix out of the box. I couldn't explain what it was but i am cherishing the .wavs i made during those days with it.

This!

You can make Spire, Massive, Diversion or Z3ta sound equally good with some external effects, but in Virus you can do almost everything within the synth, which saves a lot of time for creative work.

[chk071]

I have ears, check the video again and you need only check YT for demos etc. and I am hearing no magic really.

Do you really want to argue about taste now? I find the Virus sounds absolutely fantastic, and i literally demo'd about any popular VST out there. It's not about analog modelling for me, it's about character, and how pleasant the sound is. And no, magic doesn't entirely come from "knowing what you want and getting there using a set of tools and your own experimentation and skill coupled with a melody". It's also about inspiration, and getting stoked with every sound you squeeze out of a certain synth. I always find it funny when people argue like that. What would be the purpose of buying a synth then? Use exclusively Synth1, and make chart hits with it then.

[db3]

For some types of sound the TI remains unmatched. Soft synths come close, so a decision on which way to go would be best based on budget and workflow. I find the following can do decent Virus type sounds...Massive, Icarus, Hybrid3, Sylenth, ANA, Spire.

I'd love to see a 100% software TI plugin from Access, but it can be surprisingly difficult for plugins to match the efficiency of custom DSP. The Roland System-1 being a prime example.

[goldenanalog]

I'd love to see a 100% software TI plugin from Access, but it can be surprisingly difficult for plugins to match the efficiency of custom DSP. The Roland System-1 being a prime example.

When Arturia went the *other* direction with the their Origin (PC ip ported to tigerSHARC DSP's) - they found the translation process to be a lot of work, especially w/the caveat that components from different software emulations be mixed and matched as part of the Origin's spec (ie: you can mix Roland oscillators with a moog ladder filter, etc)

I would guess that it would be a lot easier if like moog with their model 15 app: access just builds the software PC plugin side-by-side with a Virus TI & their internal SDK - they know what all their code does - the interactions, etc etc - so it's possible that if/when they go through that process, that they will have an improved animal to the TI.

I could see access charging and getting $200 - $300 consistently for a true Virus TI port/reimagining - especially if what they wind up selling and supporting truly is expanded over their hardware platform.

[recursive one]

access just builds the software PC plugin side-by-side with a Virus TI & their internal SDK - they know what all their code does - the interactions, etc etc - so it's possible that if/when they go through that process, that they will have an improved animal to the TI.

I could see access charging and getting $200 - $300 consistently for a true Virus TI port/reimagining - especially if what they wind up selling and supporting truly is expanded over their hardware platform.

So, this essentially means they should put loads of workhours into making a thing they could sell for 200-300 bucks, which will be cracked within a week and which could potentially damage the sales of their hardware. As much as I would want to have a native verison of virus, this unlikely ever happens just for the above reasons

[murnau]

You can get an used Virus Snow in perfect condition for $500 something. Affordable i would say.

[recursive one]

You can get an used Virus Snow in perfect condition for $500 something. Affordable i would say.

Yeah, got mine for about 650.

Still, would pay for a native plugin anyway - it is just more convenient.

[goldenanalog]

[This essentially means they should put loads of workhours into making a thing they could sell for 200-300 bucks, which will be cracked within a week and which could potentially damage the sales of their hardware. As much as I would want to have a native verison of virus, this unlikely ever happens just for the above reasons

I would expect that if/when they decide to build a native Virus TI PC plug-in, that they may also elect to no longer sell the TI platform as hardware - they've discontinued the snow, so (please correct me if I'm wrong) access is only selling (3) hardware products at this point based on a single platform; w/the exception of limited-run Polar models like the dark star - and their products overall are often in short supply -

The latest os for the TI has been a beta for about a year now -