Yes, that's like saying a Ferrari is crap 'cause most people don't have the chops to drive it properly.Wolfen666 wrote:Not all the real mic'd amps sound good, it's very easy to make them sound bad in a recording, if you don't put a good equalization on it, if you don't know how to put the microphone properly in front of the speaker. I have to say also that personnally I don't like a lot the SM57, and I use half of the time a tube preamp (Lag Spitfire & ADA MP-1 modified) to do my recordings.
And while I can do with a 57 I prefer others, too, Sennheiser 609, 421, condensers or ribbons for some stuff, it was only a common example.
The difference is negligible when you use a proper DI in front, that's what I wrote.Wolfen666 wrote:There is a huge diffence between the sound you can get with a Tascam US-122 and a RME Multiface or a Mbox Pro 2, with exactly the same setup in the same DAW. And a lot of people doesn't use good convertors with their amp sims I think. That's why I was talking about that.
About the feel, that's what I've been talking about for years.Wolfen666 wrote:(I have seen a lot of blind test subjects on forums, and the results have never showed that everything is all the time better with real amps). And I think it's easier to feel the difference between a real and a simulated when you are playing with it yourself, because the feedback you get is very different. When the thing has been recorded yet, it's a lot more difficult to say if this is real or not.
And the internet "comparisons" - scrap most of them, really.
I fondly remember one with some semi-prominent players "blind-testing" an old Twin and a Marshall against some older sim stuff - yeah, right, but they messed up the mic'd sound completely
Just listen to clips posted in isolation - sims are pretty easy to detect with lower gain stuff most of the time.
They are not ideal, but some of them are pretty good.Wolfen666 wrote:That's exactly what I just wrote for the last quoteAlso, I don't like that much the false cabinet simulator with a poor lowpass filter you have on "recording outputs" in the preamps...
And you can always use cab impulses instead.
The main point is: even with the onboard DI out, a Mesa or Marshall pre for example do feel and sound quite believable over mid-level studio monitors, a sim over the same setup does not.
Don't take it personally, I'm just so fed up with these old, logically flawed arguments.Wolfen666 wrote:I don't like this kind of comments, I feel like I'm talking with the ego of someone instead of this "someone"'s itself, and this is often a lot less interesting.
They don't get any better by repeating.
Why don't we just take a stand and say :
We don't give a rat's ass about all that, give us a software amp that can hold up to an average real tube amp with a simple mic in front and we're talking
And that's with a minimal amount of fiddling, like a real one.
Now, a partly "ymmv" is warranted, unlike the last post.
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And yes, I do have a lot of good real tube gear as well as most major guitar software, so I'm not biased either way.
