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KryoShift · Post by **KryoShift** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:44 pm

Reason is really scratching my itch lately. Kinda tired of worrying about plugins and such I guess.

Jbravo wrote:as usual, people use the word DAW when in fact they mean "host" - a DAW is host + computer hardware

I hate that, too. Though I'm also guilty of it, one of those "so people will understand wtf you are talking about, too" sort of things. Like with my girlfriend calling everything under the sun that is a container a "bucket"

JD Gaffe · Post by **JD Gaffe** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:48 pm

KryoShift wrote: I hate that, too. Though I'm also guilty of it, one of those "so people will understand wtf you are talking about, too" sort of things. Like with my girlfriend calling everything under the sun that is a container a "bucket"

I hate using the word Techno (instead of EDM), but I have grown tired of explaining what EDM is and that Techno is a subgenre of it, just like House music is.

Plus it makes me look like some elitist jerk

SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:50 am

I'm a longtime Samp Pro user here. I love this Host and think it's quite underrated in the pro audio world. I think the guys at Magix have a poor marketing strategy or something, because though it has an amazing feature set, and is quite mature, it's still obscure. I love the Object based editing in Samp. Most other hosts have this now but still don't hold a candle to Samp's features in this regard. It makes doing sound to picture, and absolute dream. I'm also in love with the comparisonics waveform display. It makes vocal comping a breeze for me.

Other hosts I own and use are:

Reaper: I love this little Host. I can really resonate with the vision and mindset of it's creator, Justin. This is a secondary Host for me as it is lacking a few essential features I've come to depend on in Samp. Don't worry Reaper users, I've put feature requests into the tracker for these. Reaper is just so light, in a good way, and powerful. It will run well on old hardware. I also like that it can launch off of a USB Key. I've been with Reaper since V1 and am testing the newer v4 release. Still, reaper is more of a sketchpad Host for me.

FLStudio fruity edition: A cool drum sequencer for me. I know it now has most features that most Hosts have, but to me the drum grid is still the heart of FLS. The other features feel like an add-on to me. I also can't stand the mixer. Way too small for my eyes. The faders are way too short for complex rides. I still use it as a VSTi all the time. It's a great drum sequencer in my opinion.

Sonar X1: I've been with Sonar since version 6. I switched to sonar right when I realized that development for Tracktion had halted. How can I describe my relationship with Sonar? Sonar doesn't exactly fit my way of working workflow wise. There are a feww personal niggles with the software that work counter intuitive to my coming from Tracktion. Even things like scrolling, zooming, and splitting, just feel awkward to me. I've been a reluctant upgrader since finding Samplitude. Samp fits my way of working much better than Sonar for me. Cakewalk has a no transfer policy so you own it for life. I keep telling myself that I won't upgrade, but then I get lured in by their upgrade specials. I always tell myself that maybe this one will be it for me. Don't get me wrong, I use Sonar from time to time. It works well for me with midi based projects. Most of my projects are mostly audio, which Samp works well for me and my way of thinking. If I'm doing mostly synth based stuff, I will likely reach for Sonar though.

Reason/Record: I absolutely love Reason! It's amazing. In the past I migrated away from time to time, thinking that X vst synth sounded better than X synth in Reason. Whenever I came back, I fell in love all over again. Now I've just come to expect that Reason will always be there. I love reason. It's just so darn creative. every time I launch Reason I end up creating something. I like record as a recording interface, but editing wise, it's not close to the others. The sound though..... MMMMMMmmmmmm. Beautiful. I don't really see reason in competition with my other hosts. They work together well. I'll often rewire reason into samp, reaper, or cubase. That, i have to concede, is one area where Reaper shines. It rewire's really easily with Reason.

barreltone · Post by **barreltone** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:04 am

MOTU Digital Performer is my DAW of choice, followed by Pro Tools. Wonder if I'm the only one!

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:41 am

So the results are pretty much shaping up to be the same as the last poll a few months back. Cant wait for the next one!

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:49 pm

Yep. And make sure not to include Renoise again for continuity.

JD Gaffe · Post by **JD Gaffe** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:24 pm

sQeetz wrote:Yep. And make sure not to include Renoise again for continuity.

I'll do a better job on the next one! I swear!

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:45 pm

JD Gaffe wrote:I hate using the word Techno (instead of EDM), but I have grown tired of explaining what EDM is and that Techno is a subgenre of it, just like House music is.

Plus it makes me look like some elitist jerk

Yep. I also grew tired of telling people that a DAW is the whole machine you make music with, not just the sequencer.

I'll do a better job on the next one! I swear!

You better!

keyman_sam · Post by **keyman_sam** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:29 pm

Seeing the vote for ProTools there's obviously not many pros here.

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:11 pm

keyman_sam wrote:Seeing the vote for ProTools there's obviously not many pros here.

They're too busy installing their new jacuzzis in their gold plated mansions.

cubic13 · Post by **cubic13** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:24 am

Voted Cubase : it's still the best, IMO. I tried several others (Samplitude, Sonar, Reaper, Podium...), but definitely, it's still the one, for several things, such as : Input Transfromer, musical/linear timebase switch, input tracks, Variaudio, score implementation, and so on...

I'm still keeping an eye on the competition, cause I don't forgive Steiny having dropped the FXP/FXB support, the clumsy windows management and especially the Mediabay mess...

But no matter what I see or test here and there : I never felt more at ease using a host than this one. Guess that several years of use lead you to a biased perception, but still...

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:26 pm

Without reading the poll results, I would say Reaper and then Cubase

Make the same poll at Gearslutz and you will see something like Cubase/Nuendo, Logic,Protools

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:29 pm

...and Cubase coming up on the outside....

Henny p · Post by **Henny p** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:56 pm

Cubase gets my vote...

Using Cubase 6 currently and its nothing I cant do with it...Im a pro tools user too...but my dealings with so much midi and vsts is what makes me favor cubase...Handles vsts so well and rarely chokes from my experience. Deals with audio and editing a lot better too with version 6.

Going by halion 4 dockable window layout..which is pretty nice and fully configurable...im hoping this is implemented into Cubase 7...

Resonator63 · Post by **Resonator63** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:37 pm

I voted FL Studio but i've just started using Studio One as well.
I think a year or two down the line we could see Studio One getting quite a few more votes.

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