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rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:30 pm

I'm glad the room discussion got revived in this thread and there is at least some agreement that it should not be ignored. The room does matter as does any acoustic treatment one can afford. Save some money for good isolating in-ear monitors while you are at it.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:39 pm

I've been tempted by the Adam A7x series and the Subwoofer. It seems like a decent package for a home studio!

Another good set of monitors is the Blue Sky Pro Desk 2.1 setup, which is also used in Skywalker sound studios.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:27 am

Has anyone mentioned these yet? http://www.equatoraudio.com/D5_Studio_M ... r_p/d5.htm

The reviews seem really good on the site and the forums, looks like they are worth looking into.

The reviews are great: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/reviews/ ... or-d5.html

When people start to compare these to the Dynaudio bm6's I start listening. Those speakers are something else, if you hear them you will not forget the experience. So if someone says the d-5 remind them of those then I think I can sort of understand what they might mean. Tight, focus, great stereo projection, thats what I remember from the bm6's. I still remember the song we used to test them too, Sting's Desert Rose. I do like that song

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:13 am

The equators have what I'd refer too as a rock sound to them. Clear dry mids, unhyped tops but seriously in need of a sub down the bottom end as it just seems to disappear around the 55Hz mark. Seriously good for the price and I dare say my choice at that price point for electric guitar and accustic if that's your focus.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:00 pm

Kaine wrote:The equators have what I'd refer too as a rock sound to them. Clear dry mids, unhyped tops but seriously in need of a sub down the bottom end as it just seems to disappear around the 55Hz mark.

Even for other styles of music, that would probably be good as a second reference.

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:21 pm

I started on the Behringer Truths. They're okay for a first set of monitors. Maybe a tad bright, but very usable.

I'll spare you my personal opinion (a lot of opinions in this thread leave a bad taste in my mouth), the only advice I would give is:

- Don't spend lots on a great set of mid-range monitors. It'll probably take you a while to get the most out your speakers, so you'll be wasting your money. Start low and move up when you feel you're ready.

- Acoustically treat your room. Don't go overboard, just enough that the money you spend on the monitors will count.

-Take reviews and opinions lightly. I've had reccommendations from know-it-alls (and gone off positive reviews) that have turned out badly. Don't even believe what I have said about the Truths. Question everything.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:49 pm

audiosabre wrote:- Don't spend lots on a great set of mid-range monitors. It'll probably take you a while to get the most out your speakers, so you'll be wasting your money. Start low and move up when you feel you're ready.

I can tell you from experience that there is such a thing as buying too low, even when someone is starting out and just learning how to monitor. I wrestled with mixing on cheap speakers for years when I was starting out. When I finally bit the bullet and bought the industry standards (NS10M's at the time), everything became much clearer.

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:31 am

Uncle E wrote:
Kaine wrote:The equators have what I'd refer too as a rock sound to them. Clear dry mids, unhyped tops but seriously in need of a sub down the bottom end as it just seems to disappear around the 55Hz mark.
Even for other styles of music, that would probably be good as a second reference.

Yeah, we came to the same conclusion here as well, and to be fair to them at that price they are well placed and physically small enough that they would make a good second set where you can also throw in a kit bag and cart about if your doing sessions elsewhere.

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:22 am

Uncle E wrote:
audiosabre wrote:- Don't spend lots on a great set of mid-range monitors. It'll probably take you a while to get the most out your speakers, so you'll be wasting your money. Start low and move up when you feel you're ready.
I can tell you from experience that there is such a thing as buying too low, even when someone is starting out and just learning how to monitor. I wrestled with mixing on cheap speakers for years when I was starting out. When I finally bit the bullet and bought the industry standards (NS10M's at the time), everything became much clearer.

That's wisdom. I agree, don't start too low (whatever that means).

I wouldn't expect a musician to try and mix on a pair of inflatable speakers or whatever, but I guess we all have our own definition of 'low'

hansba · Post by **hansba** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:16 am

I have Alesis M1Active 520. Think they don't have really good bass but everything else is clear and decent flat. Anyways it's pretty hard to mix bass frequencies. Wonder if I need subwoofer or bigger maybe 6,5" monitors? What do you think? One thing really annoyed me was interference they caused my mobile can't keep it in same room. If I put it to my pocket that interference almost gone. Was really surprised about that. Think those monitors are really decent for that price anyways.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:33 pm

Hi HansBa,
I can understand the Alesis M1 520 doesn't have enough bass. I have the passive M1 Mk2 and it's 6" (or is it 6.5? ) woofers are just enough for all but the lowest sub bass. If freqs below 50 Hz are important for your type of music, you're best off investing in a subwoofer. But that also needs a fairly large room, otherwise it introduces other problems.

hansba · Post by **hansba** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:18 pm

BertKoor wrote:Hi HansBa,
I can understand the Alesis M1 520 doesn't have enough bass. I have the passive M1 Mk2 and it's 6" (or is it 6.5? ) woofers are just enough for all but the lowest sub bass. If freqs below 50 Hz are important for your type of music, you're best off investing in a subwoofer. But that also needs a fairly large room, otherwise it introduces other problems.

I raised my monitors a little bit, couple of inches and bass is now better fit little bit better to my sitting height. As someone said on Amazon review: The speakers are very directional, so spacing between your seating position and the speakers matters.

Yeah it would be nice to hear subbass but don't wanna those problems and cuz dont have too much money for subbass I'll maybe skip that and be happy with those 5" monitors

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:08 pm

hansba wrote:I have Alesis M1Active 520. Think they don't have really good bass but everything else is clear and decent flat.

I have the same monitors, but I don't agree regarding bass. First of all it depends a lot on what kind of music you are making. Secondly, bass is ALWAYS a problem in (small) home studios, no matter how good your monitors are and this can only be helped with acoustic treatment (i.e. bass traps). And lastly, when I play any of my reference material in my studio, the bass-response is very clear and 'to the point'. Getting that sound myself is a lot harder, but that has obviously nothing to do with the monitors

hansba · Post by **hansba** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:24 pm

crimsonwarlock wrote:
hansba wrote:I have Alesis M1Active 520. Think they don't have really good bass but everything else is clear and decent flat.
I have the same monitors, but I don't agree regarding bass. First of all it depends a lot on what kind of music you are making. Secondly, bass is ALWAYS a problem in (small) home studios, no matter how good your monitors are and this can only be helped with acoustic treatment (i.e. bass traps). And lastly, when I play any of my reference material in my studio, the bass-response is very clear and 'to the point'. Getting that sound myself is a lot harder, but that has obviously nothing to do with the monitors

thx for your opinion about those monitors. Seems like I have to fix my room little.

psychoxkps · Post by **psychoxkps** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:22 pm

m-audio m3-8 w/ sbx10....

What Monitors to buy for a beginner?