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bill45 · Post by **bill45** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:03 pm

There is some cool Vangelis, type stuff in himalaya's electricity bank for
D.cam synth squad.

Kire · Post by **Kire** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:56 pm

Hi!

My favorit

The real magic starts at 13:50. This was before the CS80 and the lead part is an ARP Pro Soloist.

earlevel · Post by **earlevel** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:23 am

Kire wrote:My favorit

I bought Heaven and Hell when it came out (yeah, I'm that old), and still have it (vinyl). But when I went iPod years ago and it showed up in the iTunes, I bought it again...because it was 0.99 per side (each side was consider a song—Part I and Part II). At least the album's 7.99 now, I see...

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:25 am

earlevel wrote:
Kire wrote:My favorit
I bought Heaven and Hell when it came out (yeah, I'm that old), and still have it (vinyl). But when I went iPod years ago and it showed up in the iTunes, I bought it again...because it was 0.99 per side (each side was consider a song—Part I and Part II). At least the album's 7.99 now, I see...

[rant] There's the stupidity of iTunes prices. Imagine, for example, the introduction to 1492, which last for less than a minute, costing 0.99. And the price of the albums, which for those in lossless, is around 15,00? I prefer to buy the CDs (at least, I have a support that lasts, is good looking, and I can have MP3 wherever I want to) [end of rant]

Actually, regarding Heaven & Hell, there are editions wher the musics are separated and gave names (the one in the video is called Symphony To The Powers B, and the section referred is the third movement). Here are the names:

Part One:
"Bacchanale" - 4:40
"Symphony to the Powers B" (Movements 1 and 2) - 8:18
"Movement 3" (from "Symphony to the Powers B") - 4:03
"So Long Ago, So Clear" - 5:00

Part Two:
"Intestinal Bat" - 3:18
"Needles and Bones" - 3:22
"12 O'Clock" (in two parts) - 8:48
"Aries" - 2:05
"A Way" - 3:45

His later album Mask is very much in the same vein as Heaven & Hell.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:32 pm

Here is a short part I did last summer that has a nice Bladerunner-like lead on it.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/bladerunner-ish-lead

Kire · Post by **Kire** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:37 pm

Examigan wrote:Here is a short part I did last summer that has a nice Bladerunner-like lead on it.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/bladerunner-ish-lead

Nice! Very expressive sound!

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:38 pm

Examigan wrote:Here is a short part I did last summer that has a nice Bladerunner-like lead on it.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/bladerunner-ish-lead

Nice.
What synth was it ?

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:45 pm

Mutant wrote:
Examigan wrote:Here is a short part I did last summer that has a nice Bladerunner-like lead on it.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/bladerunner-ish-lead

Nice.
What synth was it ?

Thanks, that was Synthmaster

Kire · Post by **Kire** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:57 pm

The Yamaha CS 80 had a very organic sound wich is hard to recreate on synths today. Mostly because of the vintage components, but also because the CS 80 had a mono-synth for every voice. The imperfection of the different voices, slightly different from each other, makes the synth really come alive.

Some softsynths are able to come close. Arturia CS80V and the outstanding DIVA syntheziser can modulate per voice.
The synth I prefer is Vaz Modular. It's modularsystem makes it easier to modulate everything per voice and I think I'm really close to the old analouge sound. Becuase it's modular you can build all of the parts that the CS 80 had, even the wonderful ring modulator with all of the modulationpossibilities it had.

Here's an example of VAZ being a CS80. Listen to the imperfect voices that goes slightly out of tune from each other, different filtersettings for each voice, envelopesettings, etc...

https://soundcloud.com/kiresounds/vintage-vaz

bronswerk · Post by **bronswerk** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:05 pm

This was made with 2 Roland MKS-50's.
https://soundcloud.com/bronswerk/vangelis-bladerunnish

earlevel · Post by **earlevel** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:22 pm

Kire wrote:The Yamaha CS 80 had a very organic sound wich is hard to recreate on synths today. Mostly because of the vintage components, but also because the CS 80 had a mono-synth for every voice. The imperfection of the different voices, slightly different from each other, makes the synth really come alive.

True, though for me the polyphonic aftertouch was a huge part of the experience. Plus it weighed a ton, so when you leaned into individual notes (for volume/filter/frequency modulation), it really felt like you were playing a beastie. It's pretty bothersome to me that this many years later, I can't pick up a new keyboard with poly AT that doesn't break the bank account.

Enjoying everyone's Vangelis-esque tunes—thanks!

earlevel · Post by **earlevel** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:34 pm

fmr wrote:Actually, regarding Heaven & Hell, there are editions wher the musics are separated and gave names (the one in the video is called Symphony To The Powers B, and the section referred is the third movement). Here are the names:

Interesting, thanks for that. I remember reading, years ago in an interview (Genesis, I think), about the song naming of the time. Recall how it was fashionable to do "magnum opus" type works, where sections were sub-named (Supper's ready, with seven sections, "Lover's Leap", "The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man", etc., and Tarkus, with seven sections, "Eruption", "Stones of Years", etc., ). One of the main motivating factors for naming the sections, instead of just giving the works and letting the fans sort it out, was that they would get royalties (mechanicals, etc.) on a single song otherwise. Maybe Vangelis hadn't figured that out on the fist pass

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:36 pm

Reassuringly expensive at just $17,999

Kire · Post by **Kire** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:37 pm

earlevel wrote:
Kire wrote:The Yamaha CS 80 had a very organic sound wich is hard to recreate on synths today. Mostly because of the vintage components, but also because the CS 80 had a mono-synth for every voice. The imperfection of the different voices, slightly different from each other, makes the synth really come alive.
True, though for me the polyphonic aftertouch was a huge part of the experience. Plus it weighed a ton, so when you leaned into individual notes (for volume/filter/frequency modulation), it really felt like you were playing a beastie. It's pretty bothersome to me that this many years later, I can't pick up a new keyboard with poly AT that doesn't break the bank account.

Enjoying everyone's Vangelis-esque tunes—thanks!

I have an Ensoniq TS-10 with polyphonic aftertouch. I bought it used for around 300 USD. Many of the Ensoniq synths have Poly AT.

/Kire

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:06 pm

Kire wrote:
Examigan wrote:Here is a short part I did last summer that has a nice Bladerunner-like lead on it.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/bladerunner-ish-lead

Nice! Very expressive sound!

Thanks =) credit for that preset goes to Ümit Uy (aka Insigna)
btw is very talented.

CS-80 sound emulation