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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:44 am

whyterabbyt wrote:It isnt, really.

It'd only be accurate to say that part of Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth.

Partly or not, it is still draws inspiration from a classic two osc analog synth

Looks to me like the engines can be used independently from another, and thus one can choose to switch of the digital engine when wanting to play with the analog engine only:

ROUNDS comes with one analog and one digital synth engine. Both give you every essential parameter in a stripped-down, no-fuss layout. Design up to eight sounds per engine – each with its own independent parameter settings– then sequence them with the Voice Programmer.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:57 am

Numanoid wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:It isnt, really.

It'd only be accurate to say that part of Rounds is inspired by a classic two osc analog synth.
Partly or not, it is still draws inspiration from a classic two osc analog synth

In English, there's a difference in the implication of 'inspired by' (which was your original wording) and 'draws inspiration from'. Given that there's a second, completely different sound engine, and NI's focus of the identity of the synth on its sequencing/morphing capabilites rather than just that analog-inspired sound engine is why only the former phrase isnt really apt, hence electro's response.

Nicely petty use of text size there, btw.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:01 am

whyterabbyt wrote:In English, there's a difference in the implication of 'inspired by' (which was your original wording) and 'draws inspiration from'.

Are you English.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:03 am

Numanoid wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:In English, there's a difference in the implication of 'inspired by' (which was your original wording) and 'draws inspiration from'.
Are you English.

What relevance does that have?

As it is, English is my primary language, as it is for several non-English countries, including the US and the rest of the United Kingdom.

English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca. It is spoken as a first language by the majority populations of several sovereign states, including the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand and a number of Caribbean nations; and it is an official language of almost 60 sovereign states

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:08 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:In English, there's a difference in the implication of 'inspired by' (which was your original wording) and 'draws inspiration from'.
Are you English.
What relevance does that have?

How do you know if there is a difference in the implication of a wording like this if you are not a native English speaker in the Oxfordian sense?

Based on how many different dialects there are, like up north and in Scotland, I would think that this is not universal all over Albion.

Auf Widersehen Pet, means so long kitten?

So why try and trumf a discussion on this kind of besserwisser technicality?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:35 am

Numanoid wrote:How do you know if there is a difference in the implication of a wording if you are not a native English speaker in the Oxfordian sense?

I have no idea what you mean by 'Oxfordian sense' here. Which definition are you using, and how do you think it applies, I wonder?

http://www.wordsense.eu/Oxfordian/

Is this you saying that you have actual evidence to disagree with my statement on the difference in meaning, or are you just trying to claim that its wrong merely because I said it. (cf 'ad hominem')

Based on how many different dialects there are, like up north and in Scotland, I would think that this is not universal all over Albion.

That's a complete misunderstanding of what a dialect is. Also, it relies on the logical fallacy that the existence of a dialect has an impact on the meaning of the non-dialect 'parent' language.

Its also contradicts the context of your original question; since there are plenty of English (location) Engliash (language) dialects what would it matter if I was from England or not if dialect had an impact on the different useages.

Auf Widersehen Pet, means so long kitten? :

?

Is that supposed to be an example of dialect? 'Pet' is a term of endearment in that context, as such it has no intrinsic other meaning. Not even in a dialect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_endearment

So why try and trumf a discussion on this kind of besserwisser technicality?

I didnt, you did. I clarified something for someone else. You replied to me, when I had said nothing to you. You took this conversation down this route.
So why did you try and trumf a discussion on this kind of besserwisser technicality?

Oh yes, i remember now. Standard Numanoid tactics, step 1; When contradicted, dont argue the topic, make it about the other person. Step 2 accuse the other person of starting an argment for its own sake. Step 3 will be the insults. Finally Step 4 will be the claim of victimisation, with optional demand for a moderator to take your side.

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:53 am

please folks get back on topic.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:51 pm

electro wrote:If Monark was NI's test case for re-entering the hardware synth emulation market maybe a Pro54 will materialize. Pro53 was discontinued Feb 2009

The Pro filter lives on in Guitar Rig, that is the closest thing at the moment I guess

"The Pro-Filter is based on a filter included in Native Instruments’ popular software synthesizer Pro-53".

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:20 pm

Kludgy to load the instrument in a shell then in a shell.

At the least Native Instruments could create some kind of launcher system that allows one to choose which Reaktor based synths and effects should be shown in the VST plugins list in one's host... just like any other VST plugin. And load as such (seamlessly).

If it did that, I probably wouldn't care as much if it was in Reaktor.

That or, you know, they could just launch a Pro54 VST and that would do too.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:23 pm

VitaminD wrote:That or, you know, they could just launch a Pro54 VST and that would do too.

Preferably with a free upgrade for Pro 53 owners

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:35 pm

Numanoid wrote: The Pro filter lives on in Guitar Rig, that is the closest thing at the moment I guess

And in Reaktor and Kontakt in original, low-pass form. It's been there for years.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:05 pm

U-he has released a Pro One beta.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:32 pm

electro wrote:U-he has released a Pro One beta.

For real???

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:39 pm

electro wrote:U-he has released a Pro One beta.

it's an alpha, actually

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:44 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:In English, there's a difference in the implication of 'inspired by' (which was your original wording) and 'draws inspiration from'.
Are you English.
What relevance does that have?

As it is, English is my primary language, as it is for several non-English countries, including the US and the rest of the United Kingdom.

Hey

You guys didn't win the American Revolutionary War. We're not a part of the UK.

NI Pro 54?