Do you know some excellent lesser known paid soft synths?

[Tricky-Loops]

Anyway, I am thinking of getting TubeOhm's paid version of their Anti-Transpirant. It is SE, but its sound quality is excellent as it uses 8x oversampling. And the sounds as such are also quite unusual (and even dangerous to your speakers ) because of its unconventional architecture. I will use it mainly for rich leads and bass sounds, as chords simply consume too much CPU (Diva level). It only has 6 voices, anyway.
The developer is really into his work, not a businessman trying to make profits.

TubeOhm's plugins are under-rated, too. I still love the Alpha Ray...

[mellotronaut]

Morphox anyone..?

MorphoX is killer, and for some reason its fanbase is very limited.

Maybe because of the price of $129?

care to explain? you sure don't want to point out that it's too expensive, do you? cause it's rather the opposite...

always the same topic. 'expensive' is not an objective term. for a hobbyist, who needs the earned money to feed a family in the first place and than maybe ... , it is expensive. even in Germoney live people with a low income. for a professional well known studio owner, who buys the plugs in the name of his or her company and who doesn't have to pay tax for it (minus 21%), it is different, of course.

If I would have a big studio and loads of cash, I would buy KOMPLETE 9 Ultimate, and I would be provided with so many great instruments that I wouldn't need any more...

if you had a big studio, you'd get a lot for free, because you'd be a 'multiplicator'. i suppose, Brok/Nico gets all the LinPlug stuff for 'free', because he provides the company with presets/sound sets. it is his job. he should tell us, if a certain coffee automate is 'expensive' instead.

[fluffy_little_something]

Anyway, I am thinking of getting TubeOhm's paid version of their Anti-Transpirant. It is SE, but its sound quality is excellent as it uses 8x oversampling. And the sounds as such are also quite unusual (and even dangerous to your speakers ) because of its unconventional architecture. I will use it mainly for rich leads and bass sounds, as chords simply consume too much CPU (Diva level). It only has 6 voices, anyway.
The developer is really into his work, not a businessman trying to make profits.

TubeOhm's plugins are under-rated, too. I still love the Alpha Ray...

Never tried that one so I can't say anything about it.

I did try his Mini Moog emulation Pure P-ten, it also has some unusual things, like pulse width modulation for all waveforms, not just square if I remember correctly. But the sound quality just can't compete with Anti-Transpirant, probably because there is no oversampling.

I have Bruno, I love its user interface and additional features (layer mode etc.), but of course it can't quite compete with TAL's Juno emulation in terms of sound quality, especially on higher frequencies.

[recursive one]

Audjoo Helix

that. i can't emphazise enougg, how underrated this synth still is...

I demoed it and found that it sounds extraordinarily good.

But the development seems to be stopped forever and there never will be a 64 bit version afaik. Given that, the asking price seems to be not justified

[Howard]

Helix:

But the development seems to be stopped forever...

Similar story for Quiver, it seems

However - I just read this from Ralph, the dev, dated April this year...

"I am currently working on Quiver, but unfortunately it'll be a while yet before you see an update. I am trying to fix some of the underlying issues with the codebase, so Quiver can eventually be developed into the synth it was meant to be. Unfortunately I can't do this fulltime at the moment, so progress is a little slower than I would like."

[recursive one]

Helix:

But the development seems to be stopped forever...

Similar story for Quiver, it seems

However - I just read this from Ralph, the dev, dated April this year...

"I am currently working on Quiver, but unfortunately it'll be a while yet before you see an update. I am trying to fix some of the underlying issues with the codebase, so Quiver can eventually be developed into the synth it was meant to be. Unfortunately I can't do this fulltime at the moment, so progress is a little slower than I would like."

I really wish that some day I read something like this from Audjoo.

[tanabarbier]

always the same topic. 'expensive' is not an objective term. for a hobbyist, who needs the earned money to feed a family in the first place and than maybe ... , it is expensive. even in Germoney live people with a low income. for a professional well known studio owner, who buys the plugs in the name of his or her company and who doesn't have to pay tax for it (minus 21%), it is different, of course.

You want to try with mexican incomes? Minimal salary here is a little bit less that 5 dollars a day (10 hours of work per day), and 6 days in a week, four weeks in a month, you have 120 dollars a month. Yeah 129 $ can be seen as expensive.

[Tricky-Loops]

always the same topic. 'expensive' is not an objective term. for a hobbyist, who needs the earned money to feed a family in the first place and than maybe ... , it is expensive. even in Germoney live people with a low income. for a professional well known studio owner, who buys the plugs in the name of his or her company and who doesn't have to pay tax for it (minus 21%), it is different, of course.

You want to try with mexican incomes? Minimal salary here is a little bit less that 5 dollars a day (10 hours of work per day), and 6 days in a week, four weeks in a month, you have 120 dollars a month. Yeah 129 $ can be seen as expensive.

That's why so many poor people in Mexico sell some other fuddling stuff to get more money...

[tanabarbier]

Yeah, they are not poor at all actually, those ones at least... But it is true that is seems we have a little bit of a problem with that arround here. Could it have anything to do with an other country just accross the border up north? mmmmmh... Off topic anyway, sorry.

[JoeCat]

Helix:

But the development seems to be stopped forever...

Similar story for Quiver, it seems

However - I just read this from Ralph, the dev, dated April this year...

"I am currently working on Quiver, but unfortunately it'll be a while yet before you see an update. I am trying to fix some of the underlying issues with the codebase, so Quiver can eventually be developed into the synth it was meant to be. Unfortunately I can't do this fulltime at the moment, so progress is a little slower than I would like."

Dev became a dad last year - good excuse I'm hoping he'll come up with an AU version.

always the same topic. 'expensive' is not an objective term. for a hobbyist, who needs the earned money to feed a family in the first place and than maybe ... , it is expensive. even in Germoney live people with a low income. for a professional well known studio owner, who buys the plugs in the name of his or her company and who doesn't have to pay tax for it (minus 21%), it is different, of course.

You want to try with mexican incomes? Minimal salary here is a little bit less that 5 dollars a day (10 hours of work per day), and 6 days in a week, four weeks in a month, you have 120 dollars a month. Yeah 129 $ can be seen as expensive.

Was discussing this recently with some of the artists in Eastern Europe with similar issues. I think it would be great if developers could offer a discount to students, customers in countries with depressed economies, etc. - it's goodwill that can also help the developer grow a customer base, generate buzz, etc., though I realize implementing a fair system that won't be abused is hard for smaller developers. Kudos to those who work hard to pay legitimately and not pirate.

On the subject of relative pricing - a synth like Massive is designed to cover the bases that appeal to a broad customer base, more boutique synths are not, and if your potential sales volume is much lower, the price may reflect that. Not sure if MorphoX fits that bill, etc., but just keeping in mind that some products with a narrow appeal may cost more for that very reason. If not for that, commercial developers will gravitate only towards products that appeal to a mass audience (and we see some of that now).

[tanabarbier]

Was discussing this recently with some of the artists in Eastern Europe with similar issues. I think it would be great if developers could offer a discount to students, customers in countries with depressed economies, etc. - it's goodwill that can also help the developer grow a customer base, generate buzz, etc., though I realize implementing a fair system that won't be abused is hard for smaller developers. Kudos to those who work hard to pay legitimately and not pirate.

Exactly! That is what Sensomusic use to do with Usine (We don't know at the time being if it will go on in a way with the new version). They use to give away an intermediate version for people living in developing countries, so you only pay the upgrade if you want the full version and the "Stage" version is actually enough for almost everything. That is the kind of business that no one I know here will try to pirate. And they do pirate A LOT, I mean everything all the time!

[Tricky-Loops]

Was discussing this recently with some of the artists in Eastern Europe with similar issues. I think it would be great if developers could offer a discount to students, customers in countries with depressed economies, etc. - it's goodwill that can also help the developer grow a customer base, generate buzz, etc., though I realize implementing a fair system that won't be abused is hard for smaller developers. Kudos to those who work hard to pay legitimately and not pirate.

Exactly! That is what Sensomusic use to do with Usine (We don't know at the time being if it will go on in a way with the new version). They use to give away an intermediate version for people living in developing countries, so you only pay the upgrade if you want the full version and the "Stage" version is actually enough for almost everything. That is the kind of business that no one I know here will try to pirate. And they do pirate A LOT, I mean everything all the time!

BTW, and to come back to topic: Are there plugin developers with less known synths in Mexico? Because I don't have any plugin from Mexico which is sad because there's surely more than Coffee and C...

Maybe a Ranchero synth with muted trumpet samples?

[fluffy_little_something]

I just noticed that I don't have a synth from Somalia, yet

Synths usually come from countries where people have achieved a certain standard of living and are fluent in English as that is required for reading most of the programming and synth literature etc.

[tanabarbier]

Not that I know of. But yeah, we should have local synths like some people grow local weed in others countries. I guess?

Back on topic synthmaster is something I recommend to all those young wannabefamous, they ALL use a cracked massive and sylenth, and synthmaster has an academic discount that makes it incredibly cheap for what it is. But it comes with less presets (if I remember correctly), and those wannabefamous are of the laziest kind.

[Tricky-Loops]

I just noticed that I don't have a synth from Somalia, yet

Synths usually come from countries where people have achieved a certain standard of living and are fluent in English as that is required for reading most of the programming and synth literature etc.

If I could support the people with it, I would buy a synth from Somalia immediately. And BTW, Somalia has a GREAT music culture!

I was so happy that I've found Synthmaster which is from Turkey. I thought "finally a synth from Turkey"!