I love MPOWERSYNTH

[crickey13]

That being said, I'd suggest to get MSoundFactory instead. It can do everything MPowerSynth does and much more. You can even open MPowerSynth inside of MSoundFactory, so you get it anyway with a little additional clutter.

Does MSoundFactory allow linear FM among other things? Like the way Zebra does for instance.

[MirkoVanHauten]

Well, to me they sound better in MPowerSynth. This is what I meant actually. There is a depth, a sense of detail I can't approach with other synths. They would need endless post processing.

Thanks for the clarification, I just expected other sounds then.

Well there are lots of clean synths, like Sylenth has been there since forever with alias free oscs. Nowaday in times of Hive or Rapid, this clean sound can also easily be roughed up in the synth. But you're, filters and saturation algorithms are a thing to give that grip and iirc melda has always been behind with these. I don't think it can do stuff that's impossible in other synths especially with them growing bigger and bigger to real workstations.

[DJErmac]

Well, to me they sound better in MPowerSynth. This is what I meant actually. There is a depth, a sense of detail I can't approach with other synths. They would need endless post processing.

Thanks for the clarification, I just expected other sounds then.

Well there are lots of clean synths, like Sylenth has been there since forever with alias free oscs. Nowaday in times of Hive or Rapid, this clean sound can also easily be roughed up in the synth. But you're, filters and saturation algorithms are a thing to give that grip and iirc melda has always been behind with these. I don't think it can do stuff that's impossible in other synths especially with them growing bigger and bigger to real workstations.

As far as I’m concerned, I never talked about cleanliness.
MPowersynth allows me to add detail to the sound. It has parameters that can complexify the sound without ruining its soul.
The thing about this synth is that when I create a sound, I have the feeling that I can always go further to make it sound more unique.

[Held]

Well there are lots of clean synths, like Sylenth has been there since forever with alias free oscs. Nowaday in times of Hive or Rapid, this clean sound can also easily be roughed up in the synth.

Exactly. Other synths rough the sound up while MPowerSynth adorns it. It sounds pretty and sparkly

[kobal]

Well, to me they sound better in MPowerSynth. This is what I meant actually. There is a depth, a sense of detail I can't approach with other synths. They would need endless post processing.

Thanks for the clarification, I just expected other sounds then.

Well there are lots of clean synths, like Sylenth has been there since forever with alias free oscs. Nowaday in times of Hive or Rapid, this clean sound can also easily be roughed up in the synth. But you're, filters and saturation algorithms are a thing to give that grip and iirc melda has always been behind with these. I don't think it can do stuff that's impossible in other synths especially with them growing bigger and bigger to real workstations.

they are not really behind, they are but with the saturation you can still make spectacular filter action, and there is also very intresting filters for sound design, maybe i will post a sequence with a lp filter and some reso cranqued and imo no one will spot if it s analog or digital or at least we gonna agree it can sound really good , just cause the saturation is sort of clean and great sounding, so it make up for the filter... but yes for other stuff some great filters would be nice , i really enjoyed some in thorn after a short try... it would be really nice to have filters like that specailly if these handle modulation, but for filter sweep the one included can sound very good even if it s not analog behavior, like i said a other topic.. i can make a 10 years old eq sound more analog than most plugins on a filter sweep.. it not all about the filter, how it saturate matter a lot and in some siutation like with reso cranked it matter more than the filter itself, at least for me.. but for clean you can t hide yes.. you need great filter for that.
imo he could implement great sounding filters but i don t know why he dosen t yet but it will probably come

[kobal]

i think it was mpowersynth i don t remember , but big chance it is cause of the caractere i don t have other plugin similar to that i think.. but probably with a bit of analog love cause the transients seems well rounded but not sure https://www.dropbox.com/s/3703gwlwxgerh ... 2.wav?dl=0

[kobal]

Well, to me they sound better in MPowerSynth. This is what I meant actually. There is a depth, a sense of detail I can't approach with other synths. They would need endless post processing.

Thanks for the clarification, I just expected other sounds then.

Well there are lots of clean synths, like Sylenth has been there since forever with alias free oscs. Nowaday in times of Hive or Rapid, this clean sound can also easily be roughed up in the synth. But you're, filters and saturation algorithms are a thing to give that grip and iirc melda has always been behind with these. I don't think it can do stuff that's impossible in other synths especially with them growing bigger and bigger to real workstations.

As far as I’m concerned, I never talked about cleanliness.
MPowersynth allows me to add detail to the sound. It has parameters that can complexify the sound without ruining its soul.
The thing about this synth is that when I create a sound, I have the feeling that I can always go further to make it sound more unique.

same, lately i was programing a lot of sounds into massive X and rapid, and going back to mPowersynth imo it can make sounds, even simples one than no other synth plugin can touch easily if not at all in term of quality it s in a other league than my others plugins for some sounds that i hear only with analog .. i was listening a really nice eurorack osc with fm and syncro on sort slap bass patchs i tought it sounded so nice.. but mpowersynth gave me same sound effortless.. something not possible with massive X and serum or bazille there is not point at even trying cause they don t have the suited natural pure tonal balance to start with... serum as a decent one but it lack the depth of mpowersynth and it s too much medium/ high focused.. in Mpowerynsht the sound can be just so well balanced and natural, the tonal balance can be very good imo not dark with low mids bumped or that sort of shit , it s sound really more highend with details well balanced from low mids to top, the low mids can sound nice and organic ,it was as nice as this euro rack osc imo , and as clean in term of artifacts at least to my ears.

[zerocrossing]

I started this thread so long ago. I haven’t really used MPowersynth that much recently… in all honesty, there hasn’t been much time to use any synths. MPowersynth definitely could use some good analog modeled filters, but I don’t really look to it for that type of thing. There are plenty of other synths, Bazille, Dune 3, Massive X for example, that have good modeled analog filters. It’s not like the Melda filters sound bad, they just don’t sound particularly analog.

[briefcasemanx]

I have Msoundfactory, which I think is the same thing but with more options or something? Anyways, I think it sounds pretty boring and digital, but it's maybe the funnest synth I have to mess around with because of all the options.

I wish Melda cared more about detailed analog emulation instead of coming out with a new plugin every month. This synth with some nicer filter options, analog oscillators, and better saturation would be mindblowing.

[Held]

I wish Melda cared more about detailed analog emulation instead of coming out with a new plugin every month.

Vojtech (the developer) isn't a fan of analog emulations and neither am I. If you want analog, Melda plugins probably aren't for you.

Here's a quote from the website

Welcome to the capitalist world, where everyone is telling you which is better not based on which actually is, but what they are selling. The truth is, the only remaining advantage of analogue processing is the fact that there is no latency. But customers don't know that and the companies developing analogue gear are much wealthier than software companies, so they needed to come up with some serious marketing. So now every bad thing about analogue is marketed as an awesome positive feature providing warmth, depth or other descriptive words

[pdxindy]

I wish Melda cared more about detailed analog emulation instead of coming out with a new plugin every month.

Vojtech (the developer) isn't a fan of analog emulations and neither am I. If you want analog, Melda plugins probably aren't for you.

Here's a quote from the website

Welcome to the capitalist world, where everyone is telling you which is better not based on which actually is, but what they are selling. The truth is, the only remaining advantage of analogue processing is the fact that there is no latency. But customers don't know that and the companies developing analogue gear are much wealthier than software companies, so they needed to come up with some serious marketing. So now every bad thing about analogue is marketed as an awesome positive feature providing warmth, depth or other descriptive words

That quote is from an article that is talking about analog vs digital recording.

It is not talking about synthesis and the qualities of say analog filters and emulating them in software. This is a different subject and that article is not applicable.

[Held]

I wish Melda cared more about detailed analog emulation instead of coming out with a new plugin every month.

Vojtech (the developer) isn't a fan of analog emulations and neither am I. If you want analog, Melda plugins probably aren't for you.

Here's a quote from the website

Welcome to the capitalist world, where everyone is telling you which is better not based on which actually is, but what they are selling. The truth is, the only remaining advantage of analogue processing is the fact that there is no latency. But customers don't know that and the companies developing analogue gear are much wealthier than software companies, so they needed to come up with some serious marketing. So now every bad thing about analogue is marketed as an awesome positive feature providing warmth, depth or other descriptive words

That quote is from an article that is talking about analog vs digital recording.

It is not talking about synthesis and the qualities of say analog filters and emulating them in software. This is a different subject and that article is not applicable.

4) If we don't have analogue gear, we need simulations.
The important question is why we need analogue gear in the first place, and we summed that up above. Why should it sound exactly like that?? Maybe it can be better! Who says that the way particular analogue equipment sounds is the best it can ever sound? Then you have the made-up marketing nonsense such as circuit modelling, please just don't fall for that . Humans have reached many dead ends in their existence and this is one of the biggest ones.

[MirkoVanHauten]

Wow, this "all others bad, only me is good" attitude is hitting hard again. So we should not fall for just liking analog sounding filters better? Not trust, what we can hear? "Believe" in his digital filters because he told us they could even sound better? I don't get it.

[pdxindy]

4) If we don't have analogue gear, we need simulations.
The important question is why we need analogue gear in the first place, and we summed that up above. Why should it sound exactly like that?? Maybe it can be better! Who says that the way particular analogue equipment sounds is the best it can ever sound? Then you have the made-up marketing nonsense such as circuit modelling, please just don't fall for that . Humans have reached many dead ends in their existence and this is one of the biggest ones.

Yes, that is from the same page which is talking about analog gear for recording... not synthesis. They are different subjects.

The developer may have similar views about synthesis, but they are not expressed in that article.

[Held]

Wow, this "all others bad, only me is good" attitude is hitting hard again. So we should not fall for just liking analog sounding filters better? Not trust, what we can hear? "Believe" in his digital filters because he told us they could even sound better? I don't get it.

Where did you "all others bad" from? It only says "analog emulations bad" similar to "digital sounds bad" which is also quite common.

I like Melda filters because they do their job and only their job. I don't understand why people obsess with distorting filters when there are now so many great options to produce and modify sounds in the digital world.

But whatever floats your boat. I just wouldn't get my hopes up for analog emulations from Melda. Maybe if Vojtech runs out of ideas he might change his mind and jump on the analog train.

Yes, that is from the same page which is talking about analog gear for recording... not synthesis. They are different subjects.

The developer may have similar views about synthesis, but they are not expressed in that article.

It's talking about analog gear which includes filters. I was responding to a post which asked for analog modeled filters. Maybe there's a part in the article which specifically says this doesn't apply to filters? Could you point it out to me?