KVR Audio

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:20 pm

Overpriced/underpowered... Meh. I'm not interested in the cheap bleeding edge, and if I have to tote a laptop around, I want it to not feel like parts might break off depending on how it's held. In the case of non-laptops, i would also rather blame ONE company for failure, instead of the support buck being passed around (because you know you're not advocating a Dell or similar).

I also hate Windows with a passion. What other choice do I have? (Don't even think the L word)

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:57 pm

scintillator wrote:
mhog wrote:......
Better yet: Hackintosh or VMware. If that's too complicated for some peeps, they should probably find another, erm... cough-cough... hobby.

Thanks for the tip. I have met a few thousands professionals musicians/producers/sound engeeners in my life and only a couple were using this kind of systems. Now, I know why : They were just masked hobbyists. Fakers. How naive can I be

REAL PROS USE Hackintosh or VMware !

Yes, it's as simple as that.

You're warned !

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:57 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: I also hate Windows with a passion. What other choice do I have? (Don't even think the L word)

Jace-BeOS: You could switch to BeOS.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:20 pm

Harmor is the closest thing to covering the same ground. It does most of the interesting things that alchemy did. There are a zillion granular options out there, and the synth part of alchemy was not super interesting. With a bit of updating harmor could do just as well as alchemy.

JJ

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:24 pm

Teksonik wrote:It's not a matter of complexity for me. I just don't want anything to do with overpriced, under powered Mac hardware or it's under supported OS.........

There's nothing on Mac I want except Alchemy and I already own it.....fully functioning for the foreseeable future since Windows doesn't break compatibility with every .001 update.........OSX 10.5.1.6.4.9.5

It's a good thing we have choices we each like.

Me, I wouldn't part with my Macbook Pro. It is a thing of beauty. Fast, solid, sleek, quiet, excellent screen, good battery.

And if you are a diverse content creator, then there are good software options. Final Cut Pro and Motion are great. Relatively inexpensive, powerful and easy to use... and one is not forced to use the Adobe subscription model.

Logic is quite cheap and then there is Mainstage...

Pages, Keynote and iBook Author (all free these days) are solid productive apps. Know one, you know em all.

I stopped using Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator. There are now some credible alternatives in Affinity Photo and Designer. $50 each (Mac only currently)

So there, for a total of approx $700 one has an exceptional set of content creation software. There are no monthly subscription fees ($600/year for Adobe) and generally Apple is doing free updates (more than 4 years of FCP X updates with no upgrade costs)

Yeah, you pay a premium for Mac hardware, but the software is a significant value... and especially from a productivity standpoint. My new MBP has already paid for itself multiple times in the few months I've had it. I get so much done with it.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:37 pm

Caine123 wrote: Why does no one do an Alchemy alternative? ...Shouldnt be Hard should it?

Cause it takes highly skilled people, a solid team, passionate people, lot of money, talent, a computer network, time for development, time for R & D, a team of testers, a rented place to work.

if it's that easy, then I suggest you to create one Alchemy alternative, simple as that. It's not that hard, you said it yourself.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:45 pm

Ah_Dziz wrote:Harmor is the closest thing to covering the same ground. It does most of the interesting things that alchemy did. There are a zillion granular options out there, and the synth part of alchemy was not super interesting. With a bit of updating harmor could do just as well as alchemy.

JJ

I'd like to try Harmor... am waiting for the OSX version to be ready

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:48 pm

Frantz wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote: I also hate Windows with a passion. What other choice do I have? (Don't even think the L word)
Jace-BeOS: You could switch to BeOS.

Ouch! That was really below the belt. I think I feel a cry coming on.

Seriously, I abandoned the Haiku project when the leadership changed from an end-user focused usability ethos to yet another geek/techie Linux-clone mentality. It's hopeless. Even though I still check in on it, it's just a sad lingering loss anymore. Freakin' Microsoft (market monopoly) and PalmSource/Access (bought the Be IP and wasted it; Access should just donate all the old Be assets to Haiku and take the street cred that would provide as good PR).

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:01 pm

@pdxindy: Actually, Apple screwed up Pages pretty seriously. It's still a crippled shell of its former self. The feature-robust and well designed Mac version was dumped for a back port of the iOS version which has almost none of the features and a GUI that's cluttered and wasteful of screen space. Hell, it doesn't even have rtf export.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:01 pm

Edit: Magical double post. I thought they already had a Mac version of harmor. Shows how much I know.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:03 pm

pdxindy wrote:
I'd like to try Harmor... am waiting for the OSX version to be ready

You can try the beta version for free though.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:14 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: Ouch! That was really below the belt. I think I feel a cry coming on.

Sorry, didn't know much about BeOS. I guess it's just one of those floperating systems (flopped operating system

).

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:11 pm

It would be great to see what u-he could do with an Alchemy type of synth

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:17 pm

Examigan wrote:It would be great to see what u-he could do with an Alchemy type of synth

I don't think Urs is on the spectral synthesis vein. Harry Gohs, OTOH, has Tera and Cube (and Poseidon, of which I know little about).

Tera and Cube are more or less in abandonware status, but a fusion of some of the coded modules of the two could be a good foundation for an Alchemy alternative (although Virsyn GUIs need to be worked by a designer, IMO).

And I also agree that Harmor presents a good alternative.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:58 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:@pdxindy: Actually, Apple screwed up Pages pretty seriously. It's still a crippled shell of its former self. The feature-robust and well designed Mac version was dumped for a back port of the iOS version which has almost none of the features and a GUI that's cluttered and wasteful of screen space. Hell, it doesn't even have rtf export.

Oh I know... I did my duty and gave it a 1 star rating after they did that

Still, it is a good solid app and is useful and free. I have Scrivener for longer writing projects anyway.