KVR Audio

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:57 pm

I've enjoyed this thread.

Seems there's a lot of emphasis on improved midi editing, which I'd like too.

Although I find the midi editing is acceptable in S1, I still find I'm clumsy, or stuff doesn't sometimes work, or I can't work out a good way of doing something a song demands.

So +1 for more easy editing facilities, while extending their scope.

I want my cake and eat it

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:32 am

kevvvvv wrote:Although I find the midi editing is acceptable in S1, I still find I'm clumsy, or stuff doesn't sometimes work, or I can't work out a good way of doing something a song demands.

So +1 for more easy editing facilities, while extending their scope.

I agree with that 100%.

Studio One kinda (imo, mostly, currently) falls into the scope of their larger ecosystem which is, like it or not, more leaning towards performers and musicians in a more conventional sense. If you need the kind of "deep diving" midi power from Cubase or the "click in a complex track note by note, 400 notes, at light-speed" to build a musical track with the mouse, you're not really gonna find it there... at least not currently.

I suspect they (the development team) spend a good deal of time on integration and other things that are more related to their bread and butter income, consoles, etc, etc, unlike some others.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:24 am

So could you folks that are unhappy with Studio One's midi give me 5 specific things that you find problematic with it? If you can compare it to Another DAW that does it better, that'd be great too.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:55 am

You happy with Studio One 3?

Very

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:56 am

I think studio one developers have done their best to balance the updates for the electronic producers, pro tools users, and composers in 3. You get what you put in with the DAW.

Silaris · Post by **Silaris** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:18 am

Overall, I am happy with Studio One 3. However, over the past year, I used Samplitude Pro X2 Suite and Digital Performer 9 more often than Studio One 3.

Studio One 3 is a very good DAW, in my opinion, but I hope to see the audio editing improved in the future. Also, an option to revert back to the prior GUI would be nice. I honestly do not like the new GUI implemented in v3 at all.

ontol · Post by **ontol** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:25 am

I rarely run into situations where limitations in S1 cause me grief.

I am also slow to upgrade, so I don't run into as many frustrations as the early adopters.

Very pleased with my move a few years back from PT to S1

bungle · Post by **bungle** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:57 am

ontol wrote:I rarely run into situations where limitations in S1 cause me grief.

I am also slow to upgrade, so I don't run into as many frustrations as the early adopters.

Very pleased with my move a few years back from PT to S1

Yeah if you stick to windows the limitations are much less of an issue, on OSX it has a lot of crashing and CPU usage issues, and it is not like Presonus are not told this time and time again, and it never gets sorted, so for any body cross platform (My mobile rig is Macbook) it becomes near unusable, it's a shame because it could easily replace Maschine in my set up and take a bunch of that extra software away from my workflow (Studio one and Trigger FInger pro are as good as Maschine when they work)

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:08 pm

Check out studio one 3 experts new video!!

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:53 pm

beatmangler443 wrote:
bungle wrote:
ontol wrote:I rarely run into situations where limitations in S1 cause me grief.

I am also slow to upgrade, so I don't run into as many frustrations as the early adopters.

Very pleased with my move a few years back from PT to S1
Yeah if you stick to windows the limitations are much less of an issue, on OSX it has a lot of crashing and CPU usage issues, and it is not like Presonus are not told this time and time again, and it never gets sorted, so for any body cross platform (My mobile rig is Macbook) it becomes near unusable, it's a shame because it could easily replace Maschine in my set up and take a bunch of that extra software away from my workflow (Studio one and Trigger FInger pro are as good as Maschine when they work)
Trigger finger doesn't compare to maschine lol. I know a lot of 70's producers use that. I think sometimes also issues with studio one have to do with some people having an underspec computer or is to old.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:57 pm

Looks like an update is coming for studio one 3 soon.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:59 pm

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:03 pm

beatmangler443 wrote:Looks like an update is coming for studio one 3 soon.

What makes you say that?

nostradamoose · Post by **nostradamoose** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:37 pm

beatmangler443 wrote:I think sometimes also issues with studio one have to do with some people having an underspec computer or is to old.

Yes, a lot of beginners/non-technically inclined users don't even know the difference between a laptop CPU and a Desktop CPU. They figure that it says i7, i5 or i3 so it must be of equivalent specs, this is more of a marketing trick then anything.

There are a lot of users that make a lot of transpose, pitch, time stretch and other processing changes to tracks without bouncing them. After a while a huge accumulation of these tracks along with Melodyne and events effects start to take their toll on the processor. Because they are asking S1 to keep up with these processed tracks in real time, instead of bouncing them down.

They also like to blame 3rd party plug-in compatibility on S1 crashing, this is probably the biggest issue.

Most of the problems are from Mac users because they have the worst specs for operation. The integrated graphics with lack of memory is only the beginning.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:21 pm

nostradamoose wrote:
beatmangler443 wrote:I think sometimes also issues with studio one have to do with some people having an underspec computer or is to old.
Yes, a lot of beginners/non-technically inclined users don't even know the difference between a laptop CPU and a Desktop CPU. They figure that it says i7, i5 or i3 so it must be of equivalent specs, this is more of a marketing trick then anything.

There are a lot of users that make a lot of transpose, pitch, time stretch and other processing changes to tracks without bouncing them. After a while a huge accumulation of these tracks along with Melodyne and events effects start to take their toll on the processor. Because they are asking S1 to keep up with these processed tracks in real time, instead of bouncing them down.

They also like to blame 3rd party plug-in compatibility on S1 crashing, this is probably the biggest issue.

Most of the problems are from Mac users because they have the worst specs for operation. The integrated graphics with lack of memory is only the beginning.

None of that matters when a user can load up Cubase or DP or Logic and get better performance on the exact same system.