When can we stop making 32-bit plugins?

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Is it okay if developers stop making 32-bit plugins?

No I still work in 32-bit mostly
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11%
I only use a 32-bit host some of the time, so having both is better
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7%
Yes, I've completely moved on to 64-bit
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66%
No I still need them, but in 2-3 years I'll have moved on
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4%
No I still need them and I won't move on for many years
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11%
 
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ATN69 wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
ATN69 wrote:I As long as 32-bit is available people will use it.
Instead of using the 64 bit version ? The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer.

Here's the bottom line....going 64 bit future proofs your system for the foreseeable future as I doubt 128 bit architecture and plugins are anywhere on the near horizion.

Like I said there are already 64 bit only plugins and I'm willing to bet that trend will only grow as time goes on.
Sure, but if you think about it ..a user that had only 32-bit for years and years buy a new plugin. The new plugin have both 64-bit and 32-bit version. What do you think this user will choose?
That's why I am saying that developers has to drive the trend, and if plugins come as 64-bit only, users have no choice except to get 64-bit or not buying. Second thing is that the developer might save a little bit of time as you said before, but I bet it will cost them some time in terms of support instead, at least the first couple of years.
It depends on their technology and market. I'm sure Ik did some research and found, for their products and user base, going 64 bit made the most financial sense to them. Someone wanting to use a round robin rompler is probably set up to handle that, and supporting 32 bit to satisfy a small minority that want to be limited by the maximum RAM they can use is not a good business decision for them. Someone like U-he still support both, but I wonder for how much longer, since machines capable of running their newest software are all likely 64 bit anyway. Someone buying a new computer or host has no real reason to choose 32 bit plugins, so that market is ever shrinking. My 32 bit plugins, the few I still occasionally use, get run in Reaper 32 bit bridged mode, I have the best of both worlds 8) It's just a matter of time before 32 bit is effectively history.
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braj wrote:
layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
He used an accurate term: luddite: a person opposed to increased industrialization or new technology.

You used an insult, buddy.
its not an insult if its an accurate descriptive term. anyway, whatever.
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layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
What's the matter Princess ? Someone giving you a taste of your own medicine ? Now you know how annoying you and your constant whining about "bloat" is to the rest of us.
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layzer wrote:
braj wrote:
layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
He used an accurate term: luddite: a person opposed to increased industrialization or new technology.

You used an insult, buddy.
its not an insult if its an accurate descriptive term. anyway, whatever.
Yeah, whatever :roll:
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64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.

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Running 32-bit host and plugins in a 64-bit os uses more CPU. So sticking to 32-bit plugins is only OK if you haven't updated your os or machibe in the last decade or so. In which case technology propably doesn't really matter to you and you're staying off the Internet to avoid viruses so you aren't reading this anyway.

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AnX wrote:64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.
right, too bad your music still sucks even with quality 64bit commercial synths.
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AnX wrote:64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.
Exactly. Looks like 64% of the people responding agree with you. (at the time of this post).

I think some people simply can't afford to upgrade their systems so are stuck in 32 bit mode.

To me, 64 bit hardware architecture, 64 bit OS, 64 bit DAW, 64 bit plugins and No Bit Bridge makes perfect sense.
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layzer wrote:
AnX wrote:64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.
right, too bad your music still sucks even with quality 64bit commercial synths.
Got a link to my music?

Didnt think so. :roll:

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Teksonik wrote:
AnX wrote:64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.
Exactly. Looks like 64% of the people responding agree with you. (at the time of this post).

I think some people simply can't afford to upgrade their systems so are stuck in 32 bit mode.

To me, 64 bit hardware architecture, 64 bit DAW, 64 bit plugins and No Bit Bridge makes perfect sense.
Just out of curiousity, how do you handle old projects that you created before you moved to 64-bit only? This is basically the only snag I came across. Any good tips?
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If someone can't afford to upgrade, or their favorite old host and tools are all 32 bit, that's fine, if they just want to be a minimalist or don't trust Windows 10, fine. But saying other people's music sucks and throwing around insults because they disagree with you, that is completely uncalled for.
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Ppl tend to do that when they have no argument.

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Teksonik wrote:
layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
What's the matter Princess ? Someone giving you a taste of your own medicine ? Now you know how annoying you and your constant whining about "bloat" is to the rest of us.
nothings the matter, tinkerbell. just enjoying your constant stream of the usual BS.
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I think 32 it is ok if you still want to appease to that audience. But technology forever moves forward.

I use 32 bit for older projects, but anything new Ive started using 64 bit exclusively. Its a pain to redo a project in 64 bit with a new DAW, new this & that when I could just leave it right where it is. On that note, to be able to add something with new features to an old project is right up my alley sometimes. Thats where I see 32 bit being still viable. But the new stuff... nah.

I use samplers mostly, so 64 bit is a huge necessary for me as some of my libraries are can take up lots of ram. Bridging things is just a really unnecessary hassle in my opinion. Ive moved on to Reaper as my main DAW & running everything on it is mostly flawless
I could put my 32 bit plugs in it, but it just feels like a disconnect. There are some old plugs Ill miss, but Ive mostly upgraded everything to take advantage of 64. I haven't regretted it since.
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All of my plugins are 64Bit, also the freeware I used for the OSC Competition here. But I am not the world. Maybe there are a lot people out there which still need 32 bit.

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