Dmitry Sches' Thorn VI

[toonertik]

The problem with all the CM stuff today is that it's all 32 bit so a waste of time for many of us.

Really... I guess you have not checked CM lately... most if not all VSTs and VSTis are 32/64 bit...
Get your facts correct plz Mr GRRRRRRRRRR

[toonertik]

The problem with all the CM stuff today is that it's all 32 bit so a waste of time for many of us.

All? I wonder how my version of Thorn CM gave me the option to install Thorn VST, Thorn VST3, or Thorn AAX in either 32 bit or 64 bit versions.

Just lucky I guess!

you and me and the rest..
Just the old bag'O'Bones gets unlucky...

[BONES]

Really... I guess you have not checked CM lately... most if not all VSTs and VSTis are 32/64 bit...
Get your facts correct plz Mr GRRRRRRRRRR

That's good news because I bought an issue a few months ago (maybe May) and I couldn't find any 64 bit stuff on the DVD at all. I basically wasted $30 and half a day stuffing about trying to get the content off the DVD. I won't be doing that again!

[v1o]

Who reads CM? Have you never heard of Tape Op.

[SoundPorn]

All they're stuff is on here.https://www.filesilo.co.uk/ComputerMusic/
And you wasted money by buying the physical issue with the dvd I paid $2.99 for my issue on Google play to get the IK White 2A, Thorn CM, and they're entire back catologue of vsts. I actually had to go to a 2 year old issue to unlock a folder with 32 bit plugins.

Really... I guess you have not checked CM lately... most if not all VSTs and VSTis are 32/64 bit...
Get your facts correct plz Mr GRRRRRRRRRR

That's good news because I bought an issue a few months ago (maybe May) and I couldn't find any 64 bit stuff on the DVD at all. I basically wasted $30 and half a day stuffing about trying to get the content off the DVD. I won't be doing that again!

[SoundPorn]

Along with Thorn I fell in love with Phonec CM only the CM version seems to be super buggy. It keeps going back to the default preset on me. Talk about a unique sounding synth tho.

[BONES]

All they're stuff is on here.https://www.filesilo.co.uk/ComputerMusic/
And you wasted money by buying the physical issue with the dvd I paid $2.99 for my issue on Google play to get the IK White 2A, Thorn CM, and they're entire back catologue of vsts. I actually had to go to a 2 year old issue to unlock a folder with 32 bit plugins.

Yes, how appalling that someone might want to support a business that provides a really great service to it's customers. And that link you supplied goes to a page full of images of padlocks and chains. There is not so much as a header (although that could be Safari).

[toonertik]

Really... I guess you have not checked CM lately... most if not all VSTs and VSTis are 32/64 bit...
Get your facts correct plz Mr GRRRRRRRRRR

That's good news because I bought an issue a few months ago (maybe May) and I couldn't find any 64 bit stuff on the DVD at all. I basically wasted $30 and half a day stuffing about trying to get the content off the DVD. I won't be doing that again!

Not sure what bit about an installation you not understand.

[BONES]

Maybe I just didn't transfer the 64 bit folders to my back-up drive? That means it is a lot longer ago than I thought, because we moved to 64 bit more than a year ago. I might have to dig out the DVD, bring it into work and copy everything off it this time. DuneCM, in particular, is something I know I'll use more than the full version (or D2/3) and I wouldn't mind running ZebraCM through it's paces (although I doubt I'd ever buy the full version).

[toonertik]

@Bones Having read a few of your posts (dare I mention Silence_1 and FLT debate... ) I get the impression you are not one who likes to spend time patching... DunceCM is much more accessible in that regard whilst sill retaining that DUNEish sound... I find ZebraCM very quick to patch.. simple logical interface, quality sounds (whether they fit your needs is another thing.. no debate Zeb Vs blah blah blah synth please ) I have used it since it first appeared on CM and as much as I would love to be with the full Zeb, it is over my per synth budget.. Am I correct you also have the Air_Vacuum >> gritty little b4stast (synth not YOU.. hmmmm ) I got both Vac and Hybrid free.. very useful for a gnarly thing.
BUT yeah... load them up and suck_em and hear )))))

[chk071]

It's a restriction of the synth. See the explanation here: viewtopic.php?p=6900512#p6900512

You keep banging on about a single post in an 82 page discussion, one that is well explored and explained in later posts, like this one -

I'm not sure I see this as a limitation, more rather a flavor. Diversion already gives you full spectrum saw tooth (just like spire). So it's reasonable to think that Dmitry doesn't necessarily wana give you the same thing again. Besides, such low harmonic content is easier to mix in with the highs without further EQing, specially when doing base.

Well, as pointed out, that is complete nonsense. A "full spectrum sawtooth" should be full spectrum regardless of the note you're playing, right? Otherwise, every synth could do the same, and cut the harmonic content at some point. That way, they'd save lots of CPU as well.

Again, IMO, it's a restriction of the synth. If it isn't for you, and you can work around it, or use it for the things where it won't restrict or limit you, cool. That's how it's supposed to be. Nonetheless, we should note and mention the things we notice, shouldn't we?

[simon.a.billington]

I just came across this beastie myself quite recently. I don’t do EDM, although I occasionally have use for EDM Like elements. Either way this synth has a sound of its own, which I consider a good thing.

I only wish it’s Glitch Sequencer was more flexible offering ways to manipulate the effects with it as well. Those controls need to be larger too.

[Stokely]

CM content is 64 bit as of a month ago, when I bought the latest issue and got all the plugins.

Anyway, I really like Thorn CM. It has an edge that my other synths don't have (out of the box, maybe I could slap some fx on them to get close but obviously in the synth gives more options.) Been using the leads and the glitch ability is really cool.

Also getting some use out of Bazille CM, Dune CM and Poly KB (which has a really cool noisy analog vibe to it). There's a bunch of others I haven't checked out yet. Add those to some of the free ones (Tyrell n6, Dexed etc) and it's really easy to make music without jumping into spending a ton out of the gate (well, there is the computer LOL!)

[BONES]

Well, as pointed out, that is complete nonsense. A "full spectrum sawtooth" should be full spectrum regardless of the note you're playing, right?

It should also be a sawtooth but that is very rarely the case. There are no rules or regulations, the waveform is what the developer wants it to be. You need to get over this stuff that you clearly have a poor understanding of. It is of no consequence. What matters is the sound and Thorn sounds f**king brilliant in the lower registers - way better than most of the other softsynths I use. Way better.

Otherwise, every synth could do the same, and cut the harmonic content at some point. That way, they'd save lots of CPU as well.

And maybe they'd be smart to do it if the results are as stellar as they are with Thorn.

Again, IMO, it's a restriction of the synth. If it isn't for you, and you can work around it, or use it for the things where it won't restrict or limit you, cool. That's how it's supposed to be. Nonetheless, we should note and mention the things we notice, shouldn't we?

1. Your opinion is worthless, at least in this matter as you have no idea what you're talking about.
2. There is nothing to work around, Thorn works brilliantly as is.
3. You didn't notice anything, you read something that sounded like it made sense and set it in concrete as your own (worthless) opinion.

Yesterday I asked someone for some audio examples but I'll make it easier - somebody point the rest of us to a preset that exhibits this behaviour so we can all hear it for ourselves. If it is such a big problem, we should all be able to hear it, shouldn't we?

[BONES]

... it's really easy to make music without jumping into spending a ton out of the gate (well, there is the computer LOL!)

You don't need to spend much on a computer. For most of this year I was producing our new album on a four year old Surface Pro 2 that I paid less than US$250 for and I rarely saw the CPU jump much above 50% (unless I was using Korg's ARP Odyssey). Even the brand new 2-in-1 I'm using now was less than US$800 and it handles everything even more easily, despite it's modest specs.