Another DnB Track, looking for feedback :)

[Jopmanajop]

different plugs

Yes, he reviewed many plugins, but i've never heard of his courses, thanks. Maybe Zeekuh should consider taking one

[Robmobius]

BTW, can you recommend a good one?

I also learned a lot from video tutorials. You could always subscribe to something like groove 3 for a couple of months. It's pretty cheap!

[Jopmanajop]

I also learned a lot from video tutorials. You could always subscribe to something like groove 3 for a couple of months. It's pretty cheap!

Yes, they're great, also Ask.Video. But i really love Sonic Academy's Vince Watson Tutorials, he literally doesn't do mixing, just a couple of resonance cuts, basic filtering, a little compression, but in the end it just sounds great, because music (right sounds, melody and arrangement) comes first. That was truly inspiring

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I also learned a lot from video tutorials. You could always subscribe to something like groove 3 for a couple of months. It's pretty cheap!

Yes, they're great, also Ask.Video. But i really love Sonic Academy's Vince Watson Tutorials, he literally doesn't do mixing, just a couple of resonance cuts, basic filtering, a little compression, but in the end it just sounds great, because music (right sounds, melody and arrangement) comes first. That was truly inspiring

When you work completely in the box, with minimal arrangements, and with only synthesised sounds that situation is not so hard to achieve. As you said, as long as you are paying attention to sound choice, and how those sounds interact, then the tracks come very close to mixing themselves. As soon as you add a not-so-perfectly recorded vocal, or acoustic guitar to the mix things start to get a lot more difficult

[Zeekuh]

Purchased mixingwithmike and will check it out during the week i take off, bet it will be nice with a break for you guys to, anyhow thanks for the links and all the feedback, i'll be back next weekend with a mix from the ground with some hopefully helpful learnings from mike.

Edit: Might get this question answered when i watch the courses, but this might be the ground to my problems: Are you meant to only have one sound per eq spectrum or is this something you dont realistically aim for?
In the end here i was going for that, i think that was where it started going haywire.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Purchased mixingwithmike and will check it out during the week i take off, bet it will be nice with a break for you guys to, anyhow thanks for the links and all the feedback, i'll be back next weekend with a mix from the ground with some hopefully helpful learnings from mike.

Edit: Might get this question answered when i watch the courses, but this might be the ground to my problems: Are you meant to only have one sound per eq spectrum or is this something you dont realistically aim for?
In the end here i was going for that, i think that was where it started going haywire.

Which course did you buy? Also, these courses will have the most impact if you go through them slowly and practise. Distilling that kind of info down to practicable knowledge in a week is perhaps pushing it

[Zeekuh]

Purchased mixingwithmike and will check it out during the week i take off, bet it will be nice with a break for you guys to, anyhow thanks for the links and all the feedback, i'll be back next weekend with a mix from the ground with some hopefully helpful learnings from mike.

Edit: Might get this question answered when i watch the courses, but this might be the ground to my problems: Are you meant to only have one sound per eq spectrum or is this something you dont realistically aim for?
In the end here i was going for that, i think that was where it started going haywire.

Which course did you buy? Also, these courses will have the most impact if you go through them slowly and practise. Distilling that kind of info down to practicable knowledge in a week is perhaps pushing it

The starting one Fundamentals of mixing. I dont expect to be a pro after 1 week, but hopefully i picked up some starters to help guide me in right direction. Will definetly add more studio time to my schedule, it's easy to get a bit to driven and go straight for production when starting out.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Purchased mixingwithmike and will check it out during the week i take off, bet it will be nice with a break for you guys to, anyhow thanks for the links and all the feedback, i'll be back next weekend with a mix from the ground with some hopefully helpful learnings from mike.

Edit: Might get this question answered when i watch the courses, but this might be the ground to my problems: Are you meant to only have one sound per eq spectrum or is this something you dont realistically aim for?
In the end here i was going for that, i think that was where it started going haywire.

Which course did you buy? Also, these courses will have the most impact if you go through them slowly and practise. Distilling that kind of info down to practicable knowledge in a week is perhaps pushing it

The starting one Fundamentals of mixing. I dont expect to be a pro after 1 week, but hopefully i picked up some starters to help guide me in right direction. Will definetly add more studio time to my schedule, it's easy to get a bit to driven and go straight for production when starting out.

It's also necessary. If you haven't produced anything, there's nothing to mix.

Perhaps try to resist the urge to immediately skip around (And it is tempting). Getting the foundation will make a huge difference to how well you take on the later lessons. Will be going back to day zero, myself

[Jopmanajop]

When you work completely in the box, with minimal arrangements, and with only synthesised sounds that situation is not so hard to achieve. As you said, as long as you are paying attention to sound choice, and how those sounds interact, then the tracks come very close to mixing themselves. As soon as you add a not-so-perfectly recorded vocal, or acoustic guitar to the mix things start to get a lot more difficult

True. Sometimes for sample and preset based electronic music you don't have to do anything special, just sidechain, reverb, delay, simple balancing

[wagtunes]

I decided to give this another listen. I will say this much. It sounds much better than the first version. The improvement is quite dramatic. There are still some issues, mostly EQ problems. Little bit of mud in places and some harshness in others. But, for the most part, this was not unlistenable. I have heard much worse, believe me. The drums are kind of dull and need to be worked on a a lot. The vocals, I don't mind so much, though they could be a little clearer.

For the most part, I enjoyed this. Musically, it's actually interesting. Listen to the comments above and I think you'll eventually get to where this track needs to be.

Good luck.

[Zeekuh]

Thanks Wag One final version which is basically without all the eq slicing and stuff, will start mixing from here in a week. I'll be back!
https://soundcloud.com/zeekuh/out-of-it-premixs/s-GsSwd

[Jopmanajop]

This is interesting, i'd say the vocal and the drums are mix ready, you don't have to do much, just balance it. But this impact fx is really harsh, might be a problem even at lower volume
It was helpful to hear raw mix, now i'm convinced even more that you should focus on the right balance firs and then still do less
Good luck indeed

[sjm]

+1 on stepping way to get more perspective. It's great to see your drive to get the track to where it needs to be. Try taking a break from the track for a few days or a week. Look at all the feedback you have received and then listen to the track again yourself. After a week of detachment, you *will* hear the track differently.

[htcnext2]

Nice vocals and instrumental parts. I' ve always had a faible for D'nB, so this track comes in nicely for my taste. Good work.

[PHassan]

You got pretty solid track here but the mixing is still very wrong. (the first version was awful, this one is much improved but still needs work).
For starters, just boosting highest frequencies makes that track breathe (just tried it).
Too much mud, I think too many things fighting with each other in the audio spectrum here.
Basically - I cannot really hear any bass and highs - its all mud.
You've got good drum samples, but you need to bring them forward. Kick and snare need to 'bite' and drive the track and they sound 'behind' the mix now.
Hihats are too muddy - try to eq them quite a bit.
I LOVE that hard sync hook.
Sorry if I sound too harsh - dont get me wrong - its a good track, definitely worth polishing sonically.