Zenology Pro discussion

[Septic Underground]

Also, all those sdz sound packs are some of the worst soundpacks I've heard...roland should really stop creating those useless packs (there are more than 100 of them)

Yeah maybe they should rename it to Native Roland Instruments
And FIX that freaking presetwindow stealing focus ffs, goddamnit.

[victoria]

And FIX that freaking presetwindow stealing focus ffs, goddamnit.

I'm happy I'm not the only one that throws a fit over it. It's the same with the JV and XV plugins and it's been driving me nuts from day one. I'm about to type up a bug report to Roland over my search problem and although I'm sure they know about it by now I will definitely remind them about this as well.

[samlletas]

And FIX that freaking presetwindow stealing focus ffs, goddamnit.

I'm happy I'm not the only one that throws a fit over it. It's the same with the JV and XV plugins and it's been driving me nuts from day one. I'm about to type up a bug report to Roland over my search problem and although I'm sure they know about it by now I will definitely remind them about this as well.

They fixed the preset window focus in the new Zenology V2

[susquash]

Zenology is one of my favorite synths. Don't think it's revolutionary in its design, but it definitely has the right mix of sound shaping elements.
If you only can get one roland cloud synth, it should be zenology.

[victoria]

I like to believe my correspondence with Roland did at least reinforce what was probably already way into heavy development; because the version 2 of Zenology fixes all my gripes with it. The always on DRM is still stupid but the synth is a beast and a joy to use now. Finally, after all these years.

[[nx]]

The always on DRM is still stupid but the synth is a beast and a joy to use now.

What is DRM?

[JamminFool]

I like to believe my correspondence with Roland did at least reinforce what was probably already way into heavy development; because the version 2 of Zenology fixes all my gripes with it. The always on DRM is still stupid but the synth is a beast and a joy to use now. Finally, after all these years.

much better, true.

but still takes forever to load. if they fix that and clean up some of the new graphics (like some of the knobs) which look cheesy low res, i would not have much to left to complain about.

[padillac]

I really like the programming approach of zenology, with the four partials. Do the expansion models integrate with it, so you can mix partials from those models with the zen-core sounds and edit the same way? It looks like maybe the expansions are completely different interfaces?

[D-Fusion]

I really like the programming approach of zenology, with the four partials. Do the expansion models integrate with it, so you can mix partials from those models with the zen-core sounds and edit the same way? It looks like maybe the expansions are completely different interfaces?

The Analog Models are their own thing inside of Zen and can't be used inside of the Zen Engine (Only as Standalones inside of Zenology).
The SRX/PCM Expansions EXZ and SDZ can be used freely inside of Zenology Pro.

[osofaux]

Aren't the Model Expansions basically a custom GUI over the same ZenCore Engine though? Honest question, as that has been my impression for some time and I'd be interested to know, because Zenology Pro does have VA oscillators, a fairly extensive library of single cycle oscillator samples, and some modeled filters. If this were the case, with some tweaking you could approximate the sound of one synth with one partial, and mix it with an approximation of another in another partial.

[gentleclockdivider]

The analog models IS the zencore engine but with specific (multipe) parameters mapped to macros etc , this could be limiting the resonance ,osc levels , etc...
There is no new dsp code happening at all , this has been proven numerous times .

[susquash]

I only tried the free version. Usually I keep free stuff installed, but this one had to be uninstalled. It was nagging and keeping to communicate with some servers on the net even when not being used. It had to be removed and I will never ever have a look at Roland software. Best cure against GAS. Thanks for that...

This isn't completely true.
The Roland cloud app allows you to turn off auto-startup. Just go into preferences and uncheck all three options there. Now it will not bother you at all.
You can also get a month of ultimate level account for free, and then determine if its more than the demo with sounds only is all there is, which is not the case. The complete Zenology pro has way more sounds and the ability to edit four separate layers with completely different settings for every layer. It has different sound engine architecture setups, and different sound creation methods available. It's a good synth that doesn't need to be overly hyped, but neither be unreasonably criticized.

[osofaux]

The analog models IS the zencore engine but with specific (multipe) parameters mapped to macros etc , this could be limiting the resonance ,osc levels , etc...
There is no new dsp code happening at all , this has been proven numerous times .

As I suspected, thanks for confirming. A bit overpriced in my opinion, considering this is all they are.

[gentleclockdivider]

The analog models IS the zencore engine but with specific (multipe) parameters mapped to macros etc , this could be limiting the resonance ,osc levels , etc...
There is no new dsp code happening at all , this has been proven numerous times .

As I suspected, thanks for confirming. A bit overpriced in my opinion, considering this is all they are.

More info here , second post on the page
https://gearspace.com/board/electronic- ... st14928299

[Aiynzahev]

I am hoping to get a bit of clarification. I am looking at the XV5080 and the JV1080 on the cloud. If I got Zenology Pro instead, wouldn't that cover the same ground? What's the differences between these?

Bonus question - would there be any hindrance in me exporting Zen Pro presets and other users being able to load them? Assuming I use base waveform content.