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Do many salesmen in your area deal boats from car showrooms?

Your analogy is as nonsensical as most of the topics you start.

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THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:02 pm "Four doors, and a boot ? What do you want them for ? It's not going to get you from point 'a' to point 'b' any faster, why don't you buy a 25-foot cabin cruiser with a big mercury engine on the back of it. That will get you from point 'a' to point 'b' in a straight line unless you can explain why you want to buy a car with a boot and four doors to get to your destination and miss out on all the fishing you can do by going by boat.
The interesting thing is that, where I live, I can drive to the city centre in around 5 minutes but it would take me more like 40 minutes by boat (around two hours in my yacht).

Asking people what they want to use their car for is just common sense - a Toyota Yaris has four doors and a boot but if you have two Great Danes you want to drive to the dog park every day, or if you are going to regularly want to put three mountain bikes in the boot, it's not going to fit the bill, is it? So yes, a customer who walks into a car showroom and simply keeps repeating "four doors and a boot" is very clearly a f**king idiot and most likely an easy target for a big up-sell.
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pdxindy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:29 am One of the big reasons I use Bitwig is because it is the most stable DAW I have ever used.

If for some reason I were to try out a new DAW, and it crashed even once in the first hour of testing, I'd delete it right there.
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I'm torn, because currently Cubase 11.0.0 is performing way beyond expectations but it's bizarrely unstable. It crashes doing almost nothing.
It's not because of preserve VST3 cycles when not in use ticked, it's not because the graphics switching. I have literally no clue what the problem is, and if I did isolate the culprit it won't help because I need everything I use. The fact Cubase cannot remember my setup from launch to launch, in myriad ways has me pretty much thinking it's not me, it's not plugins, it's Cubase has some stray code and a number of things which are sketchy under the hood.

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jancivil wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:52 am I'm torn, because currently Cubase 11.0.0 is performing way beyond expectations but it's bizarrely unstable. It crashes doing almost nothing.
It's not because of preserve VST3 cycles when not in use ticked, it's not because the graphics switching. I have literally no clue what the problem is, and if I did isolate the culprit it won't help because I need everything I use. The fact Cubase cannot remember my setup from launch to launch, in myriad ways has me pretty much thinking it's not me, it's not plugins, it's Cubase has some stray code and a number of things which are sketchy under the hood.
I'd create a separate thread to help narrow it down and document what you have done to solve it, so you know how to fix it in the future. Stuff like does it crash with no song loaded... have you checked for viruses ect.. What updates were installed and when...
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BONES wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:05 amWhen you say "ever", how long has v11 been around, a few months?
Cubase Pro has been around for just about a full year. Lol.

Companies were reporting Cubase Pro 11 availability on November 11, 2020.

Generally speaking, Cubase has yearly releases (this year is an anomaly due to Licensing System Changes), so someone who upgrades yearly won't use it much longer than I did when I made that comment you replied to.

10-11 months is a lot longer than "a few months," and I've been using it since the day it was released.

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C11.0.0 stable under Big Sur. could be concidence, donno
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lessera wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:31 pm Do many salesmen in your area deal boats from car showrooms?
he buys his cars from q from bond films.

just push this button and your car is a submarine, just don't use the ejection seat in sub mode.
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Trensharo wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:49 am10-11 months is a lot longer than "a few months," and I've been using it since the day it was released.
Not really, it's less than 5% of the time I've been using computers to make music and only around 2% of the time I've been using synths and sequencers. It's a drop in the bucket.
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jancivil wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:52 am I'm torn, because currently Cubase 11.0.0 is performing way beyond expectations but it's bizarrely unstable. It crashes doing almost nothing.
It's not because of preserve VST3 cycles when not in use ticked, it's not because the graphics switching. I have literally no clue what the problem is, and if I did isolate the culprit it won't help because I need everything I use. The fact Cubase cannot remember my setup from launch to launch, in myriad ways has me pretty much thinking it's not me, it's not plugins, it's Cubase has some stray code and a number of things which are sketchy under the hood.
It is strange, because its the complete opposite for me, it has better performance than 10.5 and its more stable, apart from the odd hang on exit ( which is a plugin causing it )

I will be hard pressed to go to V12 unless I see endless praise for stability.

If it doesn't remember your setup from launch to launch, its not saving things in the prefences, you on mac or PC ?
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BONES wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:15 am
Trensharo wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:49 am10-11 months is a lot longer than "a few months," and I've been using it since the day it was released.
Not really, it's less than 5% of the time I've been using computers to make music and only around 2% of the time I've been using synths and sequencers. It's a drop in the bucket.
What does that have to do with anything? That's a weird tangent.

Cubase has a 1 year release cycle. 10-11 months is long. Most users will upgrade when the new release is released, so there is no point trying to find anyone that has used a version forever. Most people don't or won't do that.

Cubase's yearly upgrade prices are fairly cheap for anyone who would buy it at all.

I don't even see what the point in your reply is. It's practically off-topic...

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