Presonus Studio One 5.5 on Jan 11

[JonHolstein]

Any update where they don’t ruin Studio One with something moronic like a clip launcher is a good update.

Don't need that, but I'd kill for Arranger Track shared clips

I would really like to have a daw where clips is jumping on timeline or between takes, based on markers and loop points. But then with a controller with horizontal tracks, and perhaps controllers without a large frame and other types of buttons on the sides, so that it can be expanded, with those general controllers on separate units.
Sure, the live layout is better for launching multiple clips while playing live. But as a navigation tool for a daw, jumping timeline and takes, it is better with a horizontal surface as it makes more sense...

[summer2000]

I'm really liking the mix scenes improvement with automation recall. Everything else not so much. I'll only update to 5.5 because it's free.

plus there are a lot of bug fixes....

Yes, bug fixes are always welcomed.

[wuworld]

You know a lot of people have been waiting for automation on the Mastering Page and the addition of the Listen Bus. The former has been a request since version 2 if not before. You know there are more than just producers using Studio One, it has a whole mixing and mastering user base that need features too.

Of course... but I doubt they are the vast majority...

Now it depends what 5.5 brings additionally on the table... if these are the only important features this update brings I have to say this is a completely flop... niche groups shall have their updates too but they are still...niche groups... so an important update like a .5 may not just focus on them and piss all the "normal" users off...
There has to be a balance imho... especially if I want to keep alive something like Sphere...

Yes it's niche groups because certain niche groups bring in more revenue. Kinda like the music production market now.

[wuworld]

I like the update. It's really well rounded.

[wuworld]

...Studio One's main market at some point was ProTools users who were defecting and still is for the most part.

Really? It always seemed to me like the popular move was from Sonar and Cubase to Studio One. I was a pretty regular user of Sonar and PT, and an occasional Cubase user, for a while and I don't really recall S1 being mentioned much among PT users, but it was a pretty common subject on the Cakewalk and Steinberg forums. I also recall a lot of the Sonar regulars appearing on the S1 forums. I'm not doubting you, but it never occurred to me that many PT users were jumping ship to S1.

You're right. Studio One almost certainly cannibalized SONAR more than any other DAW.

Lots of Pro Tools users use that DAW for post production, an area where Studio one is... not very competitive.

Studio One only just became decently usable for composition and film work in v5, and they didn't even bother adding a video track. Cubase users were never defecting en masses. They were still crashing Steinberg servers every time an update/upgrade released.

I don't really need updates to a project page that is [still] worse than my old copy of Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Other things were more important.

Presonus isn't going for the Pro Tools crowd hard like verison 3.3 or 3.5 (forgot which one). I think they are trying to make it well rounded. But I don't think the tv/film features are going to bring the cash like the home recording/producer market.

[Muziksculp]

Ver. 5.5 seems to have focused on improving the Project Page.

Other improvements have been added, but the major ones I feel in 5.5 are for the Project Page.

[Fornicras]

Can anyone actually able to use strum feature? I do it just as it says in the video, it does not work.

[apoclypse]

Can anyone actually able to use strum feature? I do it just as it says in the video, it does not work.

Yeah. It took me a while to figure it out. Select the notes move the top or bottom note then hold CMD+Option or Ctrl+Alt while moving, then it activates. You can't hold the keyboard buttons before moving the notes as that activates other options.

[boark]

The chord stack feature looks interesting, but it doesn't work when I try it. I set a scale, select the Scale checkbox, and when holding Option and dragging up/down it creates an ascending or descending line of shorter notes. Doesn't create a chord like the video shows.

[aMUSEd]

Still blocking Multiphonics VST2 on Mac

[jamcat]

The new loudness targeting for streaming platforms is a pretty big deal. I'm surprised people here are ignoring it.

[antic604]

The chord stack feature looks interesting, but it doesn't work when I try it. I set a scale, select the Scale checkbox, and when holding Option and dragging up/down it creates an ascending or descending line of shorter notes. Doesn't create a chord like the video shows.

Works just fine here.

You need to double click to insert a note DON'T LET GO and add Alt (on PC):

[summer2000]

The new loudness targeting for streaming platforms is a pretty big deal. I'm surprised people here are ignoring it.

It might be a big deal for you but not necessarily for everyone else who does not upload their songs to streaming platforms.

[apoclypse]

The new loudness targeting for streaming platforms is a pretty big deal. I'm surprised people here are ignoring it.

It might be a big deal for you but not necessarily for everyone else who does not upload their songs to streaming platforms.

It's a big deal for anyone who actually releases their music. However up until now I have other tools that do very similar things (Izotope Ozone etc) so it hasn't been a big deal for me personally.

[kidslow]

...Studio One's main market at some point was ProTools users who were defecting and still is for the most part.

Really? It always seemed to me like the popular move was from Sonar and Cubase to Studio One. I was a pretty regular user of Sonar and PT, and an occasional Cubase user, for a while and I don't really recall S1 being mentioned much among PT users, but it was a pretty common subject on the Cakewalk and Steinberg forums. I also recall a lot of the Sonar regulars appearing on the S1 forums. I'm not doubting you, but it never occurred to me that many PT users were jumping ship to S1.

You're right. Studio One almost certainly cannibalized SONAR more than any other DAW.

Lots of Pro Tools users use that DAW for post production, an area where Studio one is... not very competitive.

Studio One only just became decently usable for composition and film work in v5, and they didn't even bother adding a video track. Cubase users were never defecting en masses. They were still crashing Steinberg servers every time an update/upgrade released.

I don't really need updates to a project page that is [still] worse than my old copy of Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Other things were more important.

Presonus isn't going for the Pro Tools crowd hard like verison 3.3 or 3.5 (forgot which one). I think they are trying to make it well rounded. But I don't think the tv/film features are going to bring the cash like the home recording/producer market.

For me this update is meh. Not going to sway me either way.

I came to recently use Studio One for post production dialogue cleanup & sound design, so those were my workflow needs, but maybe I'm an outlier. The ability to import and export AAF gave me a viable path between Adobe Premiere from the editor and handoff to Pro Tools for the sound engineer. Cost me $15 total, for one month trial plus a month of Sphere, which was all the time I needed. Much cheaper alternative to using Reaper with either Vordio or the full AATranslator, either of which would have run over $100- and were what I was planning to do. You want to talk about poor support for post-production workflows, let's talk about Reaper.

Not sure I will buy a full version of Pro 5. Definitely won't continue with my sphere sub, but the price there is reasonable for a month or two on a project ... and there's no great penalty for month-to-month, unlike Adobe who charges almost twice as much on a monthly basis. I definitely have no interest in Pro Tools, which I also had to install (and fight to learn). S1 is doing quite a few things right for the post production market, whether intentionally or not.

I found S1 very easy to learn and overall I was more than satisfied, but there were a few challenges to using in post. I'm not talking about video on its own track or the things that composers are asking for. I'm talking about better (i.e. ARA 2) integration with Izotope Rx. Using an external editor in Studio One is a chore. The fact that PreSonus is behind ARA and that Rx supports ARA 2 makes me wonder why this isn't already done. Certainly find enough feature requests for it in their forums. Aside from that, found a bug in being unable to remove event inserts without quitting and restarting. Hopefully they quashed that in 5.5. My sphere sub runs out in 10 days and the project is done, so may not find out.