What is the most underrated virtual synth?

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BONES wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:37 pm Maybe for you but I couldn't see the value in Diva, for example, when it was half-price. I don't need versatility, I need synths I can work with quickly and easily with zero learning curve.
Diva is only intimidating because the components are based on the real synths and if you're not familiar with the original, it takes some effort to learn them. I look ar Diva as several emulations in one, without even getting to mixing-and-matching components. If I want to make an MS-20 patch, there's a template for it. Same with Juno, Jupiter, etc. The nice thing about Diva is that, while there are hidden settings that can affect its sound, they are not germane to the basic sound design and can safely be completely ignired. Diva does have complexity, but its tucked way out of sight, and in my case, I don't have to let my fear of complexity and learning paralyze me.

The other big hitters I mentioned, including Omnisphere, all have hidden settings, tucked away behind different tabs and windows, making it difficult to work efficiently.

I can see your point about using several cheaper plugs in place of a single one, and in the case of effects, I tend to agree wholeheartedly. I may still want a multi-effect, but one that goes beyond what can be cobbled together in a single chain.

But when it comes to synths, I admit it. I've become a filter snob. They do not need to be based on actual hardware, but I do have to like the overall sound of them. To that end, things like TAL just don't do it for me. The filters are nice. But too nice. Phonec's are fine, if a tad homogenous, but I'm still waiting for an update. And again, I'll probably pick up Invader2 once I get my DAW status settled because it's so cheap, I like the dev and want to support him and while it has a limited color palette, it sounds so damn good and it looks a blast just to noodle with on a rainy day.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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I usually say Ana2. Just sounds great.

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unfiltered audio LION
imho quite a beast,
tons of OSC variations,
unfortunately boring/lame filters
massive BYOME fx with modular system
does not seem to get massive updates - feature wise - hence dropping into underrated level...

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Parawave Rapid & Ana2 & Loom 2
Web Developer by day, DAW tinkerer by night...

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Vertigo
aliasing plugin owner
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Hi all, for me it’s Big tick Rhino, an oldie but to me still a goodie. Cheers Glyn.

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syntonica wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:28 pmDiva is only intimidating because the components are based on the real synths and if you're not familiar with the original, it takes some effort to learn them.
That's hilarious! Synths are, by-and-large, the easiest things in the world to use. There may be a few things you specifically need to get your head around, like the weird but powerful modulator thing at the bottom of ArcSyn that I still don't understand, but most of them are so stupidly easy to work out that no actual learning is required.
I look ar Diva as several emulations in one, without even getting to mixing-and-matching components. If I want to make an MS-20 patch, there's a template for it. Same with Juno, Jupiter, etc.
If that's how you look at things, I can see why Diva would appeal but I have less than no interest in making an MS-20 patch or Jupiter patch, I just want great sounds and I don't have to spend what Diva costs to get them.
The nice thing about Diva is that, while there are hidden settings that can affect its sound, they are not germane to the basic sound design and can safely be completely ignired. Diva does have complexity, but its tucked way out of sight, and in my case, I don't have to let my fear of complexity and learning paralyze me.
If you mean the voice card settings, they aren't complex, as such, just a lot of parameters repeated, like a big mixing desk.
The other big hitters I mentioned, including Omnisphere, all have hidden settings, tucked away behind different tabs and windows, making it difficult to work efficiently.
I prefer my parameters where I can get at them easily. "Tucked away" can be very annoying when you are working.
But when it comes to synths, I admit it. I've become a filter snob. They do not need to be based on actual hardware, but I do have to like the overall sound of them.
There are very few filters around that I rate, either hardware or software. I think they are frequently the part that lets an instrument down. But that's why I have several SEM based instruments, because that filter is one I rate highly. But some instruments manage to overcome those shortcommings. e.g. ARP Odyssey had three different filters over it's life and I think they are all pretty poor, yet Korg's ARP Odyssey is one of my favourite instruments. I can even find uses for The Legend, despite the fact it's filter emulates the worst filter in the history of the Universe. It limits the usefulness of that plugin but doesn't make it worthless.
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:26 pm That's hilarious! Synths are, by-and-large, the easiest things in the world to use.
I've discovered recently that I have a bit of a learning difficulty. I do better with physical controls than virtual ones, so I have to take in software in small doses.

But, it appears that I've discovered your dark secret--you just have bad taste! :wink: :lol:

I love the MS20 filter not because of its screamy resonance, but the wonderful things it does in basses and mids. There's a few leads I've heard that make me, uh... very, very happy. I'm not keen on the Odyssey. The resonance sucks and I think it's the oscillators that do, too. But Oberheim. Oberheim filters can skip the dinner and dancing and just take me straight to bed. They have such an amazing, stately presence. As much as I love DSI/SCI, mostly due to nostalgia, I'd hand them all in for an OB, even the OB6.

Anyway, I think I'm veering way off topic at this point and I think we can agree that we like what we like and that's the end of it.

(Oh, and the LFO panel on ArcSyn scares the crap out of me. I'm sure it's lovely and means well, but I haven't touched it at all. Besides, there's so much other fun stuff to play with there.)
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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I think Union by Soundspot is an underated synth.

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Equator 2 by ROLI, covers pretty much everything. I love it.

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Surge XT is pretty underrated IMHO.
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Mikelo wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:10 am I think Union by Soundspot is an underated synth.
Definitely agree...unique and full sound!

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syntonica wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:34 amBut, it appears that I've discovered your dark secret--you just have bad taste! :wink: :lol:
You misunderstand. I like the sound of an MS-20 just fine, but I don't think about sounds in terms of which synth can make them. I'd expect any of the synths I use regularly to be able to do what an MS-20 can, otherwise I wouldn't bother with it.
Mikelo wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:10 amI think Union by Soundspot is an underated synth.
Abso-fucken-lutely! It is the biggest, baddest mofo on the block!!!
simmo75 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:45 amEquator 2 by ROLI, covers pretty much everything. I love it.
I have to admit that I've hardly touched v2 but the original got a lot of use a couple years ago. I think it's because I lost all my presets for it and I don't like the v2 browser as much, so I haven't bothered trying to rebuild any of them.

That's the problem when we have so many amazing tools at out fingertips - one tiny little thing can be enough to stop you using something wonderful.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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Mikelo wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:10 am I think Union by Soundspot is an underated synth.
I went to investigate and SoundSpot's having a massive sale -- Union is $4.45. Maybe this isn't news and they frequently do this, or maybe it's something special.

I don't really need another wavetable synth but at that price it should be worth checking out...

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foosnark wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:40 pm
Mikelo wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:10 am I think Union by Soundspot is an underated synth.
I went to investigate and SoundSpot's having a massive sale -- Union is $4.45. Maybe this isn't news and they frequently do this, or maybe it's something special.

I don't really need another wavetable synth but at that price it should be worth checking out...
That is a great deal...definitely worth having...

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