Nice examples yet Morph is not comparable to a device which pre-analyses audio files and then rebuilds them with sine waves so it can then interpolate between the data files.klovn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:59 pmI get where you are coming from, but you seriously think this is worse than what’s available with Morph 3 and other non-Kyma tools, for example? https://youtu.be/nt9tXXaXRrM?si=-Sq7gmDy4PI_GpOuSampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:07 am I think when it comes to audio-morphing many users will feel the impulse to mention the word "Kyma" just like the terms "analog" and "warmth" have to be mentioned when it comes to synthesis. As a real time audio processor Morph 3 has come quite far, as far as I know Kyma is not processing incoming audio in real time (correct me if I'm wrong) and its morphing capabilities are based on additive synthesis so it's rebuilding sounds with sine waves. None of the Kyma examples I found so far have blown me away in any sense and shelling out almost 4000 bucks for the hardware in order to use Kyma is quite an investment.
Nothing I’ve heard yet comes close to the clarity and precision of these examples. I would never invest in Kyma hardware but the quality is there nonetheless and cannot be found anywhere else, imho. I say that as a Morph 3 Pro owner (have yet to sit down to test it tho, but judging it based on your recent Youtube video).
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Any ideas about why developers have not made something like kyma as VST? We have plenty with resynthesis. Maybe Harmor or Halion could integrate something like this (not that FL Studio is on it at all).
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- KVRAF
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- KVRist
- 349 posts since 13 Oct, 2015
genuinely true and the only real soundmorphing
I would be so curious to try this out, but its so expensive
I would be so curious to try this out, but its so expensive
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Alchemy was a serious attempt at Kyma like morphing in realtime, within the limitations of CPUs back then. Alchemy 2 (Logic) does it even better.
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- 349 posts since 13 Oct, 2015
Oh man...im still so sad that alchemy isn't available anymore as a VST other than in Logic. I can't bring myself to use Logic just for it, but I've definitely gotten close. One of the best softsynths of all time. Off topic but does anyone know if theres a solution to use it in another DAW? maybe a modern ReWire equivalent?
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- KVRAF
- 4220 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Indeed, Alchemy is the only tool in the VST world I'm aware of that can morph a la Kyma style keeping in track the pitch in the morph by using spectral resynthesis.
All the others plugins pretending they 'morph' -Zynaptiq Morph3 included- are just fancy cross-synthesis/vocoder transformation plugins, don't be fooled unless it's the sound you are really after. Not saying they're not fun or they're bad, but they are miles away from genuine sound morphing.
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- KVRAF
- 3056 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
there's some interesting options in Max For Live devices. resynthesis and morphing.
https://youtu.be/W0F5s6We9PU?si=yr6miCD3lu95JIGW
https://youtu.be/W0F5s6We9PU?si=yr6miCD3lu95JIGW
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and they work great. the Timbre resynthesis device: direct and simple, very convincing very usefull results.dayjob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:36 pm there's some interesting options in Max For Live devices. resynthesis and morphing.
https://youtu.be/W0F5s6We9PU?si=yr6miCD3lu95JIGW
as the spectral morph device.
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- 3618 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
I was quite impressed with the bass flute and cello morph Simon posted. Didn't sound like cross-fading to me, although Morph does have a cross-fading side of the X-Y pad.
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- 112 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
it is interesting trying different content with the various algorithms - big differences in outcomes.
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Audio-morphing two female vocal files with each other, testing the result with three different algorithms.
https://youtu.be/0LpuuWZ0I3k
https://youtu.be/0LpuuWZ0I3k
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Audio-morphing a tonal soundscape played inside the Morph 3 modeler with a field recording of scuba bubbles, testing various algorithms on the fly.
https://youtu.be/7dWubrPDNXs
https://youtu.be/7dWubrPDNXs
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- 45 posts since 24 Feb, 2008
Excellent showcase of the devices’ potential as usual, thank youSampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:27 pm Audio-morphing a tonal soundscape played inside the Morph 3 modeler with a field recording of scuba bubbles, testing various algorithms on the fly.
https://youtu.be/7dWubrPDNXs