Most likely it's because it makes demoing their products simple and easy. LUNA is also a marketing tool used to draw in customers, it's a business after all. And giving away a DAW that's well worth a couple of hundred dollars, is well within reason to require the built in marketing that comes along with it. I'm not sure why people have a problem with iLok, never had a single problem for the 10+ years of use.
Luna on Windows (open beta) released.
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 6 Oct, 2022
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 15 Nov, 2012 from Arkansas, USA
I’m one of the one’s who couldn’t ever get it to download. I’ll try again sometime later when UA have had a chance to work through the bugs with Windows. Looks promising if they get Melodyne integration at some point.
Until then, I think Waveform 13 might be the best free daw available.
Until then, I think Waveform 13 might be the best free daw available.
- KVRist
- 321 posts since 22 Jun, 2020
So is Logic pro, Cubase, Fl Studio, est, est... please.
I don't subscribe to the bugman mentality, your personality is the product you use.
Please by all means enjoy the free useless root kit driver, that interferers with other applications stability.
That philosophy works for me.
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
~A.Rand
~A.Rand
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 6 Oct, 2022
Logic is also marketing and helps sell Apple computers, don't kid yourself.MJACau wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:29 pmSo is Logic pro, Cubase, Fl Studio, est, est... please.
I don't subscribe to the bugman mentality, your personality is the product you use.
Please by all means enjoy the free useless root kit driver, that interferers with other applications stability.
That philosophy works for me.![]()
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Cubase isn't free last I checked, neither is FL Studio.
If you don't like their marketing and business, by all means skip it, really not a big deal. There's plenty of room for different ideas of offering free software, just look all over the internet. It's a model that helps sell their products, which is a business decision. You don't have to agree with it.
Like I've said, I've been using iLok for over a decade without a problem. You may have a different customer experience and you're welcome to your opinion. But, putting a blanket statement over a product for an entire community isn't practical.
- KVRist
- 321 posts since 22 Jun, 2020
More making up crap I never said. Another contrarian, condescending forum gate keep elitist.eerie_audio wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:59 pm Logic is also marketing and helps sell Apple computers, don't kid yourself.
Cubase isn't free last I checked, neither is FL Studio.
iLok is trash and a liability for a DAW, and another point of failure. Bite me, it's my objective opinion, for me. Not for you, so pull your large head in, sometimes it's not about you.
The material cost is not the objective also, nor did I say any sort of restrictive licencing is bad.
The absurdness of iLok for a free (of cost) product is pretty damn silly.
This is different than freebee plugins promotions.
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
~A.Rand
~A.Rand
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 6 Oct, 2022
Take a deep breath, it's going to be okay, you'll survive.MJACau wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:27 pmMore making up crap I never said. Another contrarian, condescending forum gate keep elitist.eerie_audio wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:59 pm Logic is also marketing and helps sell Apple computers, don't kid yourself.
Cubase isn't free last I checked, neither is FL Studio.
iLok is trash and a liability for a DAW, and another point of failure. Bite me, it's my objective opinion, for me. Not for you, so pull your large head in, sometimes it's not about you.![]()
The material cost is not the objective also, nor did I say any sort of restrictive licencing is bad.
The absurdness of iLok for a free (of cost) product is pretty damn silly.
This is different than freebee plugins promotions.![]()
- KVRist
- 321 posts since 22 Jun, 2020
Survive?! Always with the assumptions.eerie_audio wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:22 am Take a deep breath, it's going to be okay, you'll survive.
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
~A.Rand
~A.Rand
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- KVRian
- 1054 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
Ok in that case, we all hope you'll survive!MJACau wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:44 amSurvive?! Always with the assumptions.eerie_audio wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:22 am Take a deep breath, it's going to be okay, you'll survive.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35434 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
no we dont.concealed identity wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:31 amOk in that case, we all hope you'll survive!MJACau wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:44 amSurvive?! Always with the assumptions.eerie_audio wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:22 am Take a deep breath, it's going to be okay, you'll survive.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRist
- 152 posts since 19 Mar, 2016
So the whole reason people were using LUNA before, I remember, is because it has a more "analogue" sound summing the busses together. SO they'd take their mix stems into it, and SUM it there into a mix, something about something bus plugins emulating analogue console circuits, I need to look up a video or something lol
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10241 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
I stumbled on this today and installed it. One annoying aspect is in the UA connect app. After you let the app download and install LUNA, the 30 day trial plugin pack shows up as individual plugins on the plugins screen with a 'download' button. It doesn't say anything about trial there. Or, at least, it didn't on my PC until AFTER I clicked those individual Download buttons on the plugins screen and let the app install them. Only then did it switch to saying 30 day trial. 
Initially, I thought the plugins were included gratis as part of the LUNA app. I had a bit of frown when the plugins each showed 30 day trial after installing.
Initially, I thought the plugins were included gratis as part of the LUNA app. I had a bit of frown when the plugins each showed 30 day trial after installing.
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10241 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Also, I understand they've locked SHAPE to LUNA to be a feature of LUNA but it would be nice to be able to use that instrument in Cubase.
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- Banned
- 140 posts since 5 Apr, 2024
ah wouldn’t it it’s the only rompler that has all quality sounds i can think of even though it doesn’t have many you could make any genre with itVitaminD wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:48 pm Also, I understand they've locked SHAPE to LUNA to be a feature of LUNA but it would be nice to be able to use that instrument in Cubase.
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- Banned
- 140 posts since 5 Apr, 2024
it creates an ilok for you and installs it in the background it really is not a paineerie_audio wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:53 pmMost likely it's because it makes demoing their products simple and easy. LUNA is also a marketing tool used to draw in customers, it's a business after all. And giving away a DAW that's well worth a couple of hundred dollars, is well within reason to require the built in marketing that comes along with it. I'm not sure why people have a problem with iLok, never had a single problem for the 10+ years of use.
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- Banned
- 140 posts since 5 Apr, 2024
i barely noticed it installs ilok and it works offlineMJACau wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:27 pmMore making up crap I never said. Another contrarian, condescending forum gate keep elitist.eerie_audio wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:59 pm Logic is also marketing and helps sell Apple computers, don't kid yourself.
Cubase isn't free last I checked, neither is FL Studio.
iLok is trash and a liability for a DAW, and another point of failure. Bite me, it's my objective opinion, for me. Not for you, so pull your large head in, sometimes it's not about you.![]()
The material cost is not the objective also, nor did I say any sort of restrictive licencing is bad.
The absurdness of iLok for a free (of cost) product is pretty damn silly.
This is different than freebee plugins promotions.![]()