AudioThing Wurly - Vintage Electric Piano, Wurlitzer Plugin - Update v1.1

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Spitfire31 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:47 am Have you tried closing your eyes and just play this Thing? :roll:
I mean, of course some pianists perform with eyes closed, but not all the time during a whole performance. And yes, looks and sometimes even a brand affects our mood and how comfortable we feel, whether you believe it or not.
The Gui looks like made in Soviet communist era like a peace of gear to analyse or locate alien invasions.
For me it's easier to accept an ugly effect plugin like Valhalla Delay, but it's different with instrument plugins. I could never use Plasmonic synth for example, demoed it, terrible experience, no way!
People generally have different tastes, though, so you won't never please them all
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DCrown wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:16 pm The Gui looks like made in Soviet communist era like a peace of gear to analyse or control alien invasions.
AudioThing Wurly Hainbach Edition? :D
audiothing wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:53 am Sorry to hear that. We actually spend a lot of time on our GUIs. What would you have done differently with the design? If you have specific suggestions or examples of what you'd like to see improved, we'd genuinely love to hear them.
It looks fine to me.

Okay, it's not a very colourful GUI, but the original Wurlitzer pianos weren't either, so...

Perhaps a bit more shine instead of just gray? Then again, you removed it from Outer Space too, so maybe you don't like it shiny that much.

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Looks fine to me also, Thanks for the update.

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DCrown wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:16 pmThe Gui looks like made in Soviet communist era like a peace of gear to analyse or locate alien invasions.
We have several Soviet instruments here, and we owned three different Wurlitzers (and still have the two modeled in Wurly). I have to say, while there are some similarities, the Wurliters have a noticeably better touch.

The 200/206 were made in the late '60s and 200A in the early '70s. With the exception of the instructor console (see below) the design is basically the same. Same knob, same faceplate, same lid, just different colors.
Again, if you have specific suggestions or examples of what you'd like to see improved, we'd genuinely love to hear them.

Some other Wurlitzer plugins include a large 3D model of the unit, which we found to be unnecessary, though we understand that opinions vary.

Here are a few photos from my tech in Dublin. He serviced our 200 before we began developing the plugin. One day he had all these Wurlitzers displayed in his garden. They were salvaged from an old music school. The instructor console is the only one with controls that differ from the classic knob design.

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Thanks for your reply.
I don't know exactly, but make it look less boring, make it look more funky (it's not my profession to create plugin guis btw).
I mean when I think of a Wurlitzer, music with Wurlitzer makes me wanna move or dance, I get good vibes.
The color grey stands for getting old, useless, lifeless, unattractive, boring etc
That's what I associate with the color.
Now I could tell you what gui I like a lot, it is Avenger, but I am sure not everybody likes it and Avenger as a synth is a bit more complex than "just" a Wurlitzer.
Avenger doesn't necessarily need to look funky, but rather premium, I expect a Wurlitzer plugin to look funky, though
and most other devs don't offer an exciting Rhodes or Wurlitzer gui, too.
There's obviously a lack of creativity amongst a lot of plugin devs.

Create something new. Maybe make the gui color change.
There are low keys and there a higher keys on the keyboard, there are white keys and black keys. Maybe develop some color changing feature depending on or reacting to how many white or black keys, high or low keys are pressed - based or triggered by percentage %. The lower the blacker, from black to grey to blue to red (highest notes). Make the colors mix together. More white keys make the color more shiney, more black keys add vintage color look or whatever. The speed of color changes could either be quick or it's a slower process.
So the color changes to your playing.
Or maybe some special color effect for fast (flash) and slow playing (stars).

You asked for ideas, that's my spontaneous ideas.

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I see what you mean now. Honestly, you might feel the same standing in front of a real Wurlitzer. It’s got a 'boring' look at first glance, nothing flashy or funky. But as with the real thing, it’s all about the magic that happens when you start playing and let the sound do the talking.
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audiothing wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:50 pm I see what you mean now. Honestly, you might feel the same standing in front of a real Wurlitzer. It’s got a 'boring' look at first glance, nothing flashy or funky. But as with the real thing, it’s all about the magic that happens when you start playing and let the sound do the talking.
Your plugin sounds very good and I see your point. You refer to the hardware, but isn't software almost limitless, you can add features that didn't exist on hardware and you can go completely new ways regarding the gui, it's the software world!

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DCrown wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:16 pmYour plugin sounds very good and I see your point. You refer to the hardware, but isn't software almost limitless, you can add features that didn't exist on hardware and you can go completely new ways regarding the gui, it's the software world!
Thank you! I get what you mean, and I agree to some extent. With emulations, we like to stay as close to the hardware as possible because that’s where the charm comes from, but we also try to add and expand on features where possible. With non-emulations, we try to be more creative for sure.
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audiothing wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:29 pm
DCrown wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:16 pmYour plugin sounds very good and I see your point. You refer to the hardware, but isn't software almost limitless, you can add features that didn't exist on hardware and you can go completely new ways regarding the gui, it's the software world!
Thank you! I get what you mean, and I agree to some extent. With emulations, we like to stay as close to the hardware as possible because that’s where the charm comes from, but we also try to add and expand on features where possible. With non-emulations, we try to be more creative for sure.
I had to demo it, couldn't resist, then I had to buy it, couldn't resist.
Love using it together with your Valves plugin, use e-pianos together with Valves. Don't care about gui any more haha

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DCrown wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:00 pmI had to demo it, couldn't resist, then I had to buy it, couldn't resist.
Love using it together with your Valves plugin, use e-pianos together with Valves. Don't care about gui any more haha
I'm glad you decided to try it, and I'm happy you like it! Yes, Valves can be a nice companion to Wurly :party:
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Different strokes for sure. I like this gui, and also really like Valhalla's including Delay :) The ones I tend to dislike are the skeuomorphic ones especially those that make it tricky to use a mouse to turn 3d-looking knobs. Form vs function, I definitely land on the function side of things, though I also like clean-looking guis personally.

Anyway, I'm looking at various wurli plugins as it's something I am missing (unlike rhodes).

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DCrown wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:16 pm
Spitfire31 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:47 am Have you tried closing your eyes and just play this Thing? :roll:
I mean, of course some pianists perform with eyes closed, but not all the time during a whole performance. And yes, looks and sometimes even a brand affects our mood and how comfortable we feel, whether you believe it or not.
The Gui looks like made in Soviet communist era like a peace of gear to analyse or locate alien invasions.
For me it's easier to accept an ugly effect plugin like Valhalla Delay, but it's different with instrument plugins. I could never use Plasmonic synth for example, demoed it, terrible experience, no way!
People generally have different tastes, though, so you won't never please them all

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Stokely wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:38 pm Different strokes for sure. I like this gui, and also really like Valhalla's including Delay :) The ones I tend to dislike are the skeuomorphic ones especially those that make it tricky to use a mouse to turn 3d-looking knobs. Form vs function, I definitely land on the function side of things, though I also like clean-looking guis personally.

Anyway, I'm looking at various wurli plugins as it's something I am missing (unlike rhodes).
Yes, 3D is fine, but not if it messes with usability. I’m leaning more toward flat/isometric GUIs, though we still build everything in 3D under the hood. That fish-eye thing is just distracting and doesn’t really add anything useful (we might still have a few older plugins with full 3D GUIs though...).
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Any chance of MTS-ESP support or other microtuning implementation?

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MitchK1989 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:41 pm Any chance of MTS-ESP support or other microtuning implementation?
Not at the moment, sorry. Perhaps in the future. I'm already working on the next update which will feature a group of effects, to make it a bit more interesting.
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