KVR Audio

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:59 pm

There have been some posts about finding Project5 online and on the cheap...$199 is the cheapest I've found. Is that about the lowest price I'll find at a US-based website or store?

Cosmic Bandito · Post by **Cosmic Bandito** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:46 pm

soulkraka wrote:
Cosmic Bandito wrote:I use ASIO drivers at low latencies. WDM was much more stable for P5 but I hate WDM for my needs, just the mechanical feel of it. You can tell ASIO was created for music.

Just my two...
would you mind elaborating? I dont understand what you mean by the "mechanical feel" of WDM drivers.

I know it's not right to make these subjective statements mostly because everyone's systems vary. I've got regular Sony P4 1.6(northwood)laptop with an Echo Indigo soundcard - so It's all common hardware. On my system Cubase & Live4 are rock solid and basically 'gapless audio' engines using ASIO at 128samples latency. A pop or click or 'engine dropout' are never to be found unless I pushed the CPU too far. I find this setting very usable for playing/recording a realistic sampled piano in realtime - basically feels the same as when I had a Yamaha Motif.

Switch to WDM and I can bring the latency 'number' even lower, but it no longer 'responds' to playing like a hardware synth would, but like how I would expect a Computer to respond...somewhat mechanical - very subjective I admit, just try it and make your own determination! But ASIO was created specifically for music application and WDM was created by Microsoft. But my determination is purely off 'feel'.

Also I never understood why with Cakewalk Sonar why when I use my PCR-50 to control patch changes for my VST's the audio 'glitches' and 'dropouts' are common. This is a known problem and doesn't happen in Cubase or Live either - but Edirol and Cakewalk are supposed to have 'joined forces' - that's just whack IMO. I'm just not a fan their code or their marketing and I really wanted to because in paper their stuff looks great and is priced okay.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:50 pm

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wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:02 am

also bear in mind that P5 v2 will function as a Rewire host,so there's no real reason to take up arms and sides and such.

best of all worlds

Cosmic Bandito · Post by **Cosmic Bandito** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:11 am

ttoz wrote:
Igor 4000 wrote:There have been some posts about finding Project5 online and on the cheap...$199 is the cheapest I've found. Is that about the lowest price I'll find at a US-based website or store?
i got it $140 from ebay from scitscat

they are legit and just ask them to match that price, they did for me.

brand new sealed unregistered. and v2 for free! a bargain!

I thought you were done with the VST world...

riley4reason · Post by **riley4reason** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:55 am

I just downloaded the demo, loaded some midi files in it, assigned them instruments, hit play, and it crashes. I tried about 4 times.
Has any P5 users had this problem?
AMD 3K, 1.5GB RAM, XP Home. 2-7200 RPM drives 400GB.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:43 am

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Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:12 am

ttoz wrote:
Igor 4000 wrote:There have been some posts about finding Project5 online and on the cheap...$199 is the cheapest I've found. Is that about the lowest price I'll find at a US-based website or store?
i got it $140 from ebay from scitscat

they are legit and just ask them to match that price, they did for me.

brand new sealed unregistered. and v2 for free! a bargain!

Thanks, dude...I'll check it out.

ZuN · Post by **ZuN** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:45 am

riley4reason wrote:I just downloaded the demo, loaded some midi files in it, assigned them instruments, hit play, and it crashes. I tried about 4 times.
Has any P5 users had this problem?
AMD 3K, 1.5GB RAM, XP Home. 2-7200 RPM drives 400GB.

Nope i do this all the time when i use Linplug RMIV

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:48 am

ttoz wrote:
Igor 4000 wrote:There have been some posts about finding Project5 online and on the cheap...$199 is the cheapest I've found. Is that about the lowest price I'll find at a US-based website or store?
i got it $140 from ebay from scitscat

they are legit and just ask them to match that price, they did for me.

brand new sealed unregistered. and v2 for free! a bargain!

I think you're the greatest sequencer collector I've ever seen. I'm impressed.

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:23 am

AD80 wrote:I think you're the greatest sequencer collector I've ever seen. I'm impressed.

are you sure collector is the proper word?

whiteboycomputernoise · Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:31 am

riley4reason wrote:I just downloaded the demo, loaded some midi files in it, assigned them instruments, hit play, and it crashes. I tried about 4 times.
Has any P5 users had this problem?
AMD 3K, 1.5GB RAM, XP Home. 2-7200 RPM drives 400GB.

There used to be a problem with windows service pack 2 and the dep settings. You must allow for the dep setting to run cakewalk or disable the dep setting all together. DEP is the "data execution prevention" thing that prevents programs from running in windows service pack 2.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:28 am

ModuLR wrote:
AD80 wrote:I think you're the greatest sequencer collector I've ever seen. I'm impressed.
are you sure collector is the proper word?

I dont know what else to call it.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:45 am

Cosmic Bandito wrote:
ttoz wrote:
Igor 4000 wrote:There have been some posts about finding Project5 online and on the cheap...$199 is the cheapest I've found. Is that about the lowest price I'll find at a US-based website or store?
i got it $140 from ebay from scitscat

they are legit and just ask them to match that price, they did for me.

brand new sealed unregistered. and v2 for free! a bargain!
I thought you were done with the VST world...

you believed that?

riley4reason · Post by **riley4reason** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:07 pm

Does anyone know if P5 comes with Slicy and Fill-in drummer? It's listed as a midi effect in the demo but it won't load. I got the demo to work with 3 midi tracks with nPulse and Psyn. It peaked at 21% with just 3 tracks. I think it crashed before because I had 5 tracks loaded. I wonder if V2 is better on the CPU?
Riley
AMD 3K, 1.5GB RAM, XP Home. 2-7200 RPM drives 400GB.

Project 5 v2 info now up