reverb lovers, your search might be over ...

[nebulae]

Nick-

I read your post about legally not stating CPU statistics. However, can you give a general impression of how your verb compares with the following:

SpinAudio M2
Waves Trueverb
Waves Renaissance Verb

Also, Sonalksis states in their manuals how many instances of their plugs they can use with a particular machine configuration. Although that is not a definitive answer, it gives us a good idea. Can you for example state how much CPU the Saw Pad Mono Trancy Long demo took and what machine it was produced on? I think these stats will give us all a good idea on the CPU usage. We promise not to legally hold you to your answer as an implicit contract of performance.

- Neb (yes, I went to law school)

[Sepheritoh]

I must say the market has suddenly been flooded with reverbs these last few months, but this one is grabbing my attention. Lokks good, sounds good. I would keep an eye on developments here.

[nick at artsacoustic]

Can you for example state how much CPU the Saw Pad Mono Trancy Long demo took and what machine it was produced on? I think these stats will give us all a good idea on the CPU usage. We promise not to legally hold you to your answer as an implicit contract of performance.

- Neb (yes, I went to law school)

hehe ...
ok, now you got me that far.
here we go:
the sawpad mono reverb was an audiofile, played back on logic 5.5.1pc. the machine is an 2,6ghz athlon thunderbird on barton socket, tweaked to work on 3ghz.
motherboard: asus a7n8x (rev. 1)
chipset: nvidia nforce 2.7.5.0
1 gig corsair memory (2 sticks at 512mb)
audiocard: rme hammerfall digi 96/52 (6ms latency, latest driver)

the reverb on that pad was on max quality, full density.
that way our reverb uses max cpu, cannot use more.
on that demo pad my taskmanager says about 6-7% average. but it`s probably even less, as the taskmanager showes allways about 2-4%, even when idle (means no plugin instanciated or realtime inputs enabled, and logic doesn`t play)
again:
we don`t let us be nailled on that, as too many influences could change those results.
you know how drastic theese things can change even when you only have low quality memorysticks in a machine.
however, hope this gives you an idea.

[nebulae]

Awesome! Thanks for the quick response - says a lot about customer service

5% CPU usage on that kind of machine for this quality of a reverb is very respectable indeed. Compares to the Waves Trueverb, and destroys the M2, in my opinion. Anyone else chime in?

[nick at artsacoustic]

Awesome! Thanks for the quick response - says a lot about customer service

5% CPU usage on that kind of machine for this quality of a reverb is very respectable indeed. Compares to the Waves Trueverb, and destroys the M2, in my opinion. Anyone else chime in?

sorry, i have to point that out: i said 6-7%. probably even less, because of the reason described above.
and on the customer service note:
thanks, all i can say, we are users, too.

[nebulae]

Awesome! Thanks for the quick response - says a lot about customer service

5% CPU usage on that kind of machine for this quality of a reverb is very respectable indeed. Compares to the Waves Trueverb, and destroys the M2, in my opinion. Anyone else chime in?

sorry, i have to point that out: i said 6-7%. probably even less, because of the reason described above.
and on the customer service note:
thanks, all i can say, we are users, too.

Yeah, I was just doing the math with your numbers. But I get your point. Thanks for the clarification.

[stefancrs]

Awesome! Thanks for the quick response - says a lot about customer service

5% CPU usage on that kind of machine for this quality of a reverb is very respectable indeed. Compares to the Waves Trueverb, and destroys the M2, in my opinion. Anyone else chime in?

sorry, i have to point that out: i said 6-7%. probably even less, because of the reason described above.
and on the customer service note:
thanks, all i can say, we are users, too.

On my computer (it may vary between computers and applications) the taskmanagers usually reports way too low cpu usage on audio stuff.

Try measuring how long it takes for your reverb to render in the process(replacing) call. Then divide the time it took to process sampleFrames with (sampleFrames / sampleRate). Multiply that by 100 to get a percentage for how much cpu your reverb needs.

But you probably already have such measurements in your plugin, it's hard to optimize by just using the task manager as a profiling instrument

FWIW, at top quality, when pushing the reverb really hard and so on, I don't think 7-10% is too much, most people use sends I think. I don't, but most do. You probably don't mean that it's a 3GHz AMD either, but a 3000+

[nick at artsacoustic]

no, i meant a 2,6ghz amd athlon thunderbird running at overclocked 3ghz.
anyway, i did the measuring with the task manager because this is the "reference" that most users (at least on pc) would check the cpu usage on, if they don`t do it with the measurement tool within their host (which is imo kind of useless in this particular case. i`d have to do the measurement in all hosts individually then. as they might differ, don`t have readout`s etc, this probably would cause more confusion than helping the user ).

[stefancrs]

no, i meant a 2,6ghz amd athlon thunderbird running at overclocked 3ghz.

Ok, because an AMD Athlon64 4000+ runs at 2.4GHz, and no other AMD cpu runs at 2.6GHz

anyway, i did the measuring with the task manager because this is the "reference" that most users (at least on pc) would check the cpu usage on, if they don`t do it with the measurement tool within their host (which is imo kind of useless in this particular case. i`d have to do the measurement in all hosts individually then. as they might differ, don`t have readout`s etc, this probably would cause more confusion than helping the user ).

Yeah, I know, cpu measurement is a hassle in some ways.

[jasonsantiago]

am I the only one confused by the company name? Shouldn't it be Acoustic Arts? Arts Acoustic sounds backwards. Maybe its a bad Euro translation?

[nebulae]

am I the only one confused by the company name? Shouldn't it be Acoustic Arts? Arts Acoustic sounds backwards. Maybe its a bad Euro translation?

Freakin' Americans...

[greendoor]

Well www.acousticarts.com is taken by a cybersquatter for a start ... I think Arts Acoustic is a great name, and it's really hard to find a name that isn't already taken.

I think jasonsantiago is a bad tranlation from the American. Shouldn't it be Antiagio Jason? - very confusing

[Zacchino]

You guys forgot reverb impulse processor.

Heard about SIR ?

Another great Room Simulator (warm, non electric, great sound) : Princeton Digital Reverb 2016.

[nick at artsacoustic]

am I the only one confused by the company name? Shouldn't it be Acoustic Arts? Arts Acoustic sounds backwards. Maybe its a bad Euro translation?

not at all. we wanted the name like this.and, as you see, it allready worked. stayed in your head ...

[nick at artsacoustic]

Well www.acousticarts.com is taken by a cybersquatter for a start ... I think Arts Acoustic is a great name, and it's really hard to find a name that isn't already taken.

thanks, greendoor. and yes, we searched and thought over a lot before this name fell into our minds.