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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:58 am

Anyone who saw your posts in the deltasp forum knew exactly what you were talking about, and anyone curious about this thread probably checked your old posts to see if there was a clue. So your tactic of starting a new thread outside that forum specifically to complain about perceived 'flaws' in their product is exceptionally dubious behaviour for one developer to engage in with regard to another developer's products.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:08 am

jens wrote:a thread in a parallel universe:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... t=#1130487

Your original posts I found to be a bit more amusing than the current ones. To bad that you edited them the next day... (reveals a bit more of your nice character though)

All I did was adding this:
EDIT: 50ms latency is the BEST I can set up here !
At 24ms I get only crackles...

P.S. and it is clearly writen EDIT !

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:18 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Anyone who saw your posts in the deltasp forum knew exactly what you were talking about...

There were only 15-20 views then...

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:24 am

Midiworks wrote:
jens wrote:a thread in a parallel universe:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... t=#1130487

Your original posts I found to be a bit more amusing than the current ones. To bad that you edited them the next day... (reveals a bit more of your nice character though)
All I did was adding this:
EDIT: 50ms latency is the BEST I can set up here !
At 24ms I get only crackles...

P.S. and it is clearly writen EDIT !

my bad - I was looking for this:

Midiworks wrote: You are going into a different league now with Delta SP,
if you charge $129 soon $149,
you should not do the popup thing or nobody will take you serious.

Delta SP will have a future and will create income, if you do it right !

but overlooked it today and thought you had deleted it.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:30 am

whyterabbyt wrote:...complain about perceived 'flaws' in their product is exceptionally dubious behaviour for one developer to engage in with regard to another developer's products.

That was not the case untill the developer and his frinds revealed the product.

His and my products have as much in common like
apples and bananas...

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:38 am

Try and justify yourself all you want, its still highly unprofessional and dubious behaviour IMO. Nor is it the first time.

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:42 am

Midiworks wrote:Lowest latency would be 24ms,
would you buy such a host ?

jackle&hyde wrote: My vote was Yes.
I think, that most of the users here could work more than comfortable with that "limitations".

Comfortable enough to go out for a cup of coffee and back after triggering a VSTi with time left over to actually hear the response.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:43 am

Midiworks wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:...complain about perceived 'flaws' in their product is exceptionally dubious behaviour for one developer to engage in with regard to another developer's products.
That was not the case untill the developer and his frinds revealed the product.

His and my products have as much in common like
apples and bananas...

I don’t think that really matters. I agree with whyterabbyt, a developer starting this kind of thread about another developer just doesn’t look good, whether you’re in direct competition or not.

I also don’t like your condescending attitude that you somehow have to teach this developer how to run his business. It’s his software and he clearly has a plan for it, no need for you or anyone else to tell him how to develop it.

/Yoss

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri May 06, 2005 11:10 am

Yossarian wrote:I also don’t like your condescending attitude that you somehow have to teach this developer how to run his business.

Then have fun in popup hell...

Starting from a visit of the website,
to a tricked download popup button,
to a demo version that opens up a popup
still quite too frequently.

Lets look at the bright side now !
In the new version I can set the latency now to 14ms,
without any crackles.

Maybe even lower if the slider range would let me.
3500ms is no problem but lower than 16ms gets tough
to move the slider...

Finally I am able to make connections in the builder.
(was close to impossible for me before)

So at least it was not all for nothing...

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri May 06, 2005 11:55 am

Midiworks wrote: In the new version I can set the latency now to 14ms,
without any crackles.
Maybe even lower if the slider range would let me.
3500ms is no problem but lower than 16ms gets tough
to move the slider...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86294

rlabz · Post by **rlabz** » Fri May 06, 2005 1:23 pm

Midiworks wrote:Lowest latency is 24ms,
No ASIO or WDM
would you buy such a host ?

EDIT: 50ms latency is the BEST I can set up here !
At 24ms I get only crackles...

The host includes a bunch of VSTs and VSTi's
and has other nice functions too.

I would really like to see/hear what you think !

Would you recommend or buy such a host ?

Please vote !

I wouldn't be able to stand the high latency, although I AM looking for a small (ie quick to load) host with low-latency, supporting VST plugins, with basic recording capabilities. I'm interested in something I can just plug in my guitar, load up an Amp sim, and record whatever I come up with. Quick is the key feature here though. Anyway, you didn't ask about that. A VSThost without ASIO is useless to me.

KVR Audio

VST host without ASIO or WDM for $129, any use ?

VST host without ASIO, lowest latency would be 24ms, would you buy ?