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Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:16 pm

Wow! Didn't see this thread!

I love putting guitars in my music but absolutely hate programming them. Rythm & Chords isn't available for my sequencer and I've always been hoping that someone would create something similar for VST Midi.....and here it is....almost....sort of...

Caleb

soma · Post by **soma** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:22 pm

Looks kind of familiar moka,

I think you have really taken it to the next level!
As for the logic, I think it is my lack of Guitar playing knowlege that makes me ingnorant, but I don't quite see the difference between A and B. Aren't the first three strings the same as the three treble strings (the steel strings)?

Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:31 pm

yes, but if you knew guitar, you would know that when i say 3 first strings, i mean starting from bottom (of screen), as this is the way you write guitar tabs.
why?
cause if you hold your guitar in normal posture, and look at fretboard, bass string comes first.
so it's easier to write with this inverted view.
(you can notice on screen shots that bottom strings are bolder than three "last" ones.)

Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:03 pm

where is my fan club today?

I really would like some advices on preset names...
I don't want people to come when it's finished and ask "why didn't you made a "funky blues slap on first string and tickle the second" strum preset, it really lacks..."

bend will be as follows :

- you set bend range (-12 to +12) on the step you want it to begin.
- you choose between smooth slide or fretted slide
- you choose how many steps it takes to go to bended note.
- you can set a number of steps for return to original note if you want.
- number of steps to choose from go from 0 to 16, and there's 1/2 too.

does this sound correct?

and also comment the previous page strum screenshots, to let me know if it seems good or not.

Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:50 pm

so i go for 5 categories :

- strums -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
- arpeggios -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
- rasgueados -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
- user1 -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
- user2 -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
- user3 -> 5 subfolder -> 10 presets each
= 300 presets slots for strums.

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:57 pm

it's a shame that nobody has replied to your questions. to be honest, i'm quite lost with the technical information. i'll understand better when i'll try the plugin, i reckon. maybe i'm not the only one in that case? cheers.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:00 pm

the looks cool! I'll have one please

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:52 pm

Hi, Mokafix, I'm sorry I haven't kept up with this thread. And I'm one of your biggest fans!

Since I mentioned a rasgueado mode, I tried your rasgueado clip. Smooth. A little too smooth. And too slow. At least this example. This would be good for a harp patch. But a rasgueado is more percussive than tonal. It's a stab of notes. It's the ! mark of strumming. The punctuation mark with a purpose

Of course choosing the appropriate sample is important too. And if you had a control to make it more ragged, more random that would be nice too.

Overall I think your concept is great. So when do we beta test it?

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:27 pm

Yeah - beta.
Probably a heap of better people than I to Beta test it, but I'd really like to try it anyway.

Caleb

xander · Post by **xander** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:36 pm

Cool!

I'll beta, just let me know

I'd like to know more about the articulations/strokes/chops/mutes, etc.

Cheers,
Alexander the Beta-Boy

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:48 pm

Can midi alone chop/mute? I wish.

xander · Post by **xander** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:14 pm

mandolarian wrote:Can midi alone chop/mute? I wish.

There couldn't be some CC# assignments for these?

Anyway, I doubt I have a very good idea about what I am talking about anyway, but it sounded important...

Cheers,
Alex The Ignorant Keypounder

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:00 am

No, ...xander, that is important. Chops/Mutes are important. All those sloppy articulations are part of the sound. The CC idea is interesting.

Wow, this could get very intricate and complicated. But don't tell the guitar players or else they'll think they can get a raise for their 'complicated' work!

Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:36 am

mandolarian wrote:Hi, Mokafix, I'm sorry I haven't kept up with this thread. And I'm one of your biggest fans!

Since I mentioned a rasgueado mode, I tried your rasgueado clip. Smooth. A little too smooth. And too slow. At least this example. This would be good for a harp patch. But a rasgueado is more percussive than tonal. It's a stab of notes. It's the ! mark of strumming. The punctuation mark with a purpose
Of course choosing the appropriate sample is important too. And if you had a control to make it more ragged, more random that would be nice too.

Overall I think your concept is great. So when do we beta test it?

thanks for support!

of course,the rasguaedo clip was too slow, it was just to see if space between notes were corresponding to what rasgueado is.

and if you had take a look to previous page, you'd have see the strum control screen. you can see on that screen that you can make a much more shuffle rasgueado than the midi one. (midi clip was a for tap midi delay; but with my new strum editor, yuo can control each note's position and velocity.

Mokafix · Post by **Mokafix** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:46 am

...xander wrote:
mandolarian wrote:Can midi alone chop/mute? I wish.
There couldn't be some CC# assignments for these?

Anyway, I doubt I have a very good idea about what I am talking about anyway, but it sounded important...

Cheers,
Alex The Ignorant Keypounder

yep, there will be midi cc# assigments for this or for whatever you want.
I think that I'll put 2 midi cc#'s with adsr control.

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