good job I never enter the comps then...oh hang on you said good track.3*s wrote:I would never vote for someone who makes a good track but is a complete ass.
Not necessarily because of how they reviewed me, just in general.
Voters are influenced?
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Bergen/Norway
For next month we can just all make anonymous entries and upload them to a secret FTP server. No vocals allowed, no using trademark techniques, no gossip thread with people hinting to which entry was theirs. 
Maybe IPs could be traced and stuff, but every system has it's weakness.
This could even be made into an action thriller of some kind. With unnumbered bank boxes, secret meetings, CD-R exchanges, payoffs, guns, sexy ladies with STM's, etc.
Maybe IPs could be traced and stuff, but every system has it's weakness.This could even be made into an action thriller of some kind. With unnumbered bank boxes, secret meetings, CD-R exchanges, payoffs, guns, sexy ladies with STM's, etc.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ooh can i be a rugged yet lethal and agile assassin 
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Bergen/Norway
Sure vurt. 
Btw, we really liked the promo pack you sent us
http://www.entertainmentwithclass.com/a ... photo4.jpg
Sometimes I'm not so sure Google is such a good thing.
Btw, we really liked the promo pack you sent ushttp://www.entertainmentwithclass.com/a ... photo4.jpg
Sometimes I'm not so sure Google is such a good thing.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
sickledid my tattoo,if you want i can send the pictures from behind 
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Bergen/Norway
Rectoscopy pictures?
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- KVRian
- 1243 posts since 24 Oct, 2003 from Maine
Yeah. I don't intend to financially support someone I don't like.vurt wrote:3*s wrote:I would never vote for someone who makes a good track but is a complete ass.
Not necessarily because of how they reviewed me, just in general.
out of interest do you have the same standards for music you purchase?
i know for a fact many artists i love musically are absolute tosspots.for one example anyone who has seen badly drawn oy live knows what i mean...what an ass
but on vinyl the guy is a genius
♫♪♫♫♪♫
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
thats fair enough,like i said just a query 
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
i like the idea of anonymous entries, just for one month, maybe. it could be a very cool experiment.
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
I agree... I think it would work best if people tried to do something a bit different to what they usually do, to reduce the chance of identification.Wopelka wrote:i like the idea of anonymous entries, just for one month, maybe. it could be a very cool experiment.
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
would be nigh impossible tho unless kvr offered a bit of web space and the ability to ftp to it
plus when people vote how would we actually know who won if it was completely anonymous,of that track was mine no it was mine f**k off you two it was mine
could be fun watchin that gossip thread tho
anonimity leading to people speaking more freely ie song number 45 i wouldnt play to a dieing dog you f**ker why did you make me listen now i have to shower in acid and scrub my nads with a brillo pad just to take my mind of the abysmal diorhea that was your track
remain anonymous after someone says that about your track hahaha!
plus when people vote how would we actually know who won if it was completely anonymous,of that track was mine no it was mine f**k off you two it was mine
could be fun watchin that gossip thread tho
anonimity leading to people speaking more freely ie song number 45 i wouldnt play to a dieing dog you f**ker why did you make me listen now i have to shower in acid and scrub my nads with a brillo pad just to take my mind of the abysmal diorhea that was your track
remain anonymous after someone says that about your track hahaha!
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35440 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I hate vurt's next anonymous track. 
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
you should hear it
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- KVRAF
- 4682 posts since 6 Jan, 2003
the way i see it, these are songwriting competitions...so i vote for the songs i like the best.
production:
the production could be absolutely flawless, but if the song doesnt interest me, it doesnt get my vote. however, production can come into play when im trying to judge between two songs that move me equally and i need something to act as the tie breaker.
would i not vote for a really good song because of poor production? i suppose its possible, but it would have to sound so damn awfull/painfull that it kills the song. if production is rough, or just not to my liking, i wont hold it against a good song. there have actually been times where i've tweaked the eq on my mixer to make a shrill mix easier on me, just so i can best judge the track on its songwritting merits.
so generally speaking, good production can help, but it wont save, and bad production can hinder, but probably wont kill.
complete compostions:
even though there is a 2 minute time limit, i prefer to hear complete compositions. if a song feels like its an excerpt from something longer, or feels like a rough jam/practice session, then i wont rank it as high as i would have otherwise...even if i like whats there...because my listening experiance feels incomplete and therefore im left dissatisfied. it wont keep a song off my top 10, but it probably wont score as high as it could have.
reviews of my stuff:
not everyone likes the same songs, and i dont expect everyone to like mine. its just personal preference. also, i know that there is always plenty of room for improvement in my compositions and production. as a result, i expect to recieve some constructive criticism and i welcome it. if people dont tell me where i need to try to improve, i may not get any better.
so if i get a poor review and/or no votes from someone, but they write a killer track, they'll still get my vote. again, its a song competition...not a personality or butt kissing competition.
the in-crowd:
if there is one, i've never felt shunned by it. i've only entered a few comps, only posted a few non-comp songs, and i dont spend much time discussing tracks in the cafe...but never have i felt like i was being ostricized or being given low scores because im not part of some inner circle. in fact, its quite the contrary. i feel i've been welcomed and encourraged.
so am i, as a voter, influenced in my decisions? yes...im influenced by the songs themselves.
-ugo
production:
the production could be absolutely flawless, but if the song doesnt interest me, it doesnt get my vote. however, production can come into play when im trying to judge between two songs that move me equally and i need something to act as the tie breaker.
would i not vote for a really good song because of poor production? i suppose its possible, but it would have to sound so damn awfull/painfull that it kills the song. if production is rough, or just not to my liking, i wont hold it against a good song. there have actually been times where i've tweaked the eq on my mixer to make a shrill mix easier on me, just so i can best judge the track on its songwritting merits.
so generally speaking, good production can help, but it wont save, and bad production can hinder, but probably wont kill.
complete compostions:
even though there is a 2 minute time limit, i prefer to hear complete compositions. if a song feels like its an excerpt from something longer, or feels like a rough jam/practice session, then i wont rank it as high as i would have otherwise...even if i like whats there...because my listening experiance feels incomplete and therefore im left dissatisfied. it wont keep a song off my top 10, but it probably wont score as high as it could have.
reviews of my stuff:
not everyone likes the same songs, and i dont expect everyone to like mine. its just personal preference. also, i know that there is always plenty of room for improvement in my compositions and production. as a result, i expect to recieve some constructive criticism and i welcome it. if people dont tell me where i need to try to improve, i may not get any better.
so if i get a poor review and/or no votes from someone, but they write a killer track, they'll still get my vote. again, its a song competition...not a personality or butt kissing competition.
the in-crowd:
if there is one, i've never felt shunned by it. i've only entered a few comps, only posted a few non-comp songs, and i dont spend much time discussing tracks in the cafe...but never have i felt like i was being ostricized or being given low scores because im not part of some inner circle. in fact, its quite the contrary. i feel i've been welcomed and encourraged.
so am i, as a voter, influenced in my decisions? yes...im influenced by the songs themselves.
-ugo
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
vurt wrote:would be nigh impossible tho unless kvr offered a bit of web space and the ability to ftp to it
plus when people vote how would we actually know who won if it was completely anonymous,of that track was mine no it was mine fcuk off you two it was mine
could be fun watchin that gossip thread tho
anonimity leading to people speaking more freely ie song number 45 i wouldnt play to a dieing dog you fcuker why did you make me listen now i have to shower in acid and scrub my nads with a brillo pad just to take my mind of the abysmal diorhea that was your track
remain anonymous after someone says that about your track hahaha!
seriously, i think it's possible. we could PM pHz (or another mod) to let him know what's our 'anonymous' identity, and yes we need a common server.