Oh My, How did that happen?! Did you interrupt the firmware update?!ajeshashok wrote:Guys, I need your help.
Does anyone know how to do a hard reset on the Seaboard Rise?
I tried updating the firmware and looks like the Seaboard is bricked now. Doesn't turn on, I've tried in all ways possible, with different computers. Please help.
Sound quality very good. Flexibility......is it just me but aren't the fonts in it way too small? I say this from a 1920x1080, 17.3" widescreen point of view. In Strobe 2 you can magnify the interface. Either that or some kind of readability improvement needs to happen with Equator. The recent 1.11 is much quicker than 1.10thetechnobear wrote:Equator now available for general sale!
what do owners think of equator as a synth?
Good sound quality? Flexible?
Nice! Which one you got? The Alpha looks great but it has a price to match. I have also been keeping an eye on these..... http://technosynth.com/eowave/thetechnobear wrote:I'd be teaming it up with an Eigenharp and Soundplane, so MPE enabled
Huge online database of patches that can be downloaded locally (including those made for the Grand as well).thetechnobear wrote:I've been intrigued with equator, but in the time they've take it to be released quite a few MPE enabled synths have been released.
Does it offer anything over ML synths, Falcon, u-he synths?
I wouldn't call it an ubersynth. It isn't in the same league as Omnisphere, Falcon, Halion, for example. You get a pretty standard synth, really... some oscillators, filters, envelopes, lfos, a few effects. But you get a generous number of oscillators, and really great MPE modulation integration, which makes it one of the best synths to use with those devices. The other, not surprisingly, being Strobe 2.BONES wrote:For an ubersynth, Equator is quite nice (I'm not much of a fan of ubersynths). The sound quality is excellent and it is reasonably easy to program. Patch wrangling is pretty good, too. I mostly use it stand alone, treating my Rise 25 like a hardware synth within my set-up. TO be fair, though, I've not really tried to push it so I'm not sure how ultimately flexible/good it really is.
So others can see what I see on windows..... not good......SteveElbows wrote:Regarding dodgy font size in Equator, things are a bit small but still look good on macOS. When I briefly tried on Windows I was horrified by how the font used in Equator looks on that platform, but then again part of the reason I try to use macs as much as possible is the way fonts often look on Windows.
This is a joke, right? I spend 8 hours a day on a high-end MacPro at work, followed by an hour or two on my Windows laptop every evening and I can't say I have ever noticed fonts rendering any differently on one or the other. The difference is very likely to be in any scaling that's been applied but if you run the ClearType utility on Windows, you'll get the best, crispest font rendering for your specific set-up and your own eyes, rather than what Apple decides is the best compromise for everyone.SteveElbows wrote:... but then again part of the reason I try to use macs as much as possible is the way fonts often look on Windows.
No I am not joking at all, the difference is massive as far as I'm concerned but I'm afraid I'm not going to put much time into working out why our experiences are so different.BONES wrote:This is a joke, right? I spend 8 hours a day on a high-end MacPro at work, followed by an hour or two on my Windows laptop every evening and I can't say I have ever noticed fonts rendering any differently on one or the other.SteveElbows wrote:... but then again part of the reason I try to use macs as much as possible is the way fonts often look on Windows.
I also have been thinking about this for a long time. I believe I have a solution in which both Roli's ordinary customers, and those that understand and want to work with microtonality, can be satisfied with the same implementation. Mind you this is an advanced subject and the average person is going to think we're nuts for caring, but we're not. Contact me, Roli, we can work it out.Keyless wrote:As someone with much experience with this, I can provide an answer as to why the removed it. When I got my Seaboard GRAND Stage last year (long before this feature was removed from my instrument), it was fairly difficult to play in tune. I had to practice for months to be able to consistently play it in tune. If you played a chord, for example, if just one finger was slightly off target, it sounded out of tune. I didn't mind, because that is the way it supposed to be! So I'm certain that ROLI made the decision to change the way it responded, such that initial touch always quantizes to the nearest half-step, because users were having this trouble. This current version does indeed make it much easier to play in tune. They made this part of the Rise spec from the beginning, so Rise owners have no idea what was once possible, and I'm sure a lot of users don't care. What ROLI apparently didn't realize, it that there are worthy players out there who do care (and yes, that does indeed remind me a lot of Apple)! It should be very easy for them to provide these two methods as two selectable options in the Dashboard. Once you've actually experienced the incredible musical possibilities presented with initial touch position determining pitch (as has been possible on almost every continuous pitch instrument throughout history), having that feature removed is unbelievably frustrating!Cinebient wrote:pdxindy wrote:+100Keyless wrote:I purchased a Seaboard GRAND Stage model as soon as they started shipping, around March 2015. At that time, the Seaboard did indeed provide microtonal pitch in between semitones with an initial touch! In fact, I used that feature to great effect. When the Rise model was introduced, that capability was not included, undoubtedly because it made the instrument much easier to play in tune. I felt a bit smug that my Seaboard GRAND did not have that limitation. Alas, a major update to the GRAND model was introduced a little over a month ago (1st update in over a year!). Guess what? the microtonal capability was removed!Cinebient wrote:himalaya wrote:
But i still can't get a microtonal pitch inbetween a semitone with an initial touch. Microtune the keywaves etc. Such an instruments shouldn't be limited to western scales only.
It's always quantized to a equal 12 tone.
I already wrote Roli support about this and a lot other things i could imagine.
They think about these things....bla bla....
So maybe in a (far) future.
Multi-touch screens are still far ahead of possibilities....well, beside tactile feedback of courseIt now conforms to the Rise spec in that regard.
Here's what is going on: Currently, initial touch resets MIDI pitch-bend messages to zero. When my GRAND had microtonal capability, MIDI data for pitch-bend on initial touch corresponded to finger position. Simple as that. There is no technical reason they can't bring this feature back right away.
+1
When it was there before i don't get why they removed it. Just give us a damn choice here
So it seems they go the consumer way (like Apple) to grow but left niche users alone.
There is so much more i would like to do in the dashboard.
Since it's software it should be possible....like tuning each keywave to my personal needs. Splits etc.....
How i said.....some apps offer much more here for less money!! But i want the tactile feedback!
But the other options are crap or more expensive.
I love the Seaboard but those limitations are really annoying. Could i hack the dashboard software?
Maybe they should hire more musicians and less tech experts as well!
As for your desire to create "splits": That ability is already there for the most part. Within Equator, you can use the "Keytracking" parameter. Within a computer DAW, you can use multiple instances of the same or different instruments and assign each to a restricted key range! Problem solved. Your welcome!
See this page......Jax Pok wrote:Still stuck trying to install the Firmware update on my Roli Block the Seaboard Block arrives on Monday.
The Roli Block works in Ableton in Windows 10 but to use it as I want I need Dashboard but Dashboard wont work until I do a firmware update on the Light Block. On Windows version of Dashboard a firmware update cannot be done over a USB cable.
Do I need the CME WIDI BUD to update the firmware?
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