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pinki wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:What I found funny: I can drag in .exs and .nki files and for a short moment it looks as if they will be imported (the cursor also suggests successful drag and drop), sometimes even a new program is getting created, but it stays empty. So I guess there is either some old import code left or it is a sign that at one point we will see more import options.
Would be very helpful go at least have basic .exs and .nki import.
Can I ask if you are a Mach Five 3 user?

MF3 does indeed support .nki so I am surprised Falcon does not. Note that if the .nki has scripts it will will not import, but basic .nki should. Try importing a blank .nki maybe.
No, I always looked at Mach Five but somehow never got over the threshold. Falcon changed that :-)

Yeah, not sure why that is, maybe it's a licensing thing?
Good suggestions - I'll try removing all scripts and see if that changes anything.

Cheers,

Tom

Edit: Hm no - .nki with no scripts didn't work either. :shrug:
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Cinebient wrote:Can Falcon read wavetables created for Dune 2 too? For some reason my favourites even when the synth is not so advanced for wavtables like Serum f.e.
Would be great since Dune 2 seems to get an own wavetable editor in near future. So i could use it as my wavetable creator maybe. Serum is not my cup of tea and there is no really proper wavetable creator software for OSX out there (at least nothing for a beginner like me).
It depends on the format used by Dune 2.
Are those regular wav file with custom chunk ?
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Cinebient wrote:Can Falcon read wavetables created for Dune 2 too? For some reason my favourites even when the synth is not so advanced for wavtables like Serum f.e.
Would be great since Dune 2 seems to get an own wavetable editor in near future. So i could use it as my wavetable creator maybe. Serum is not my cup of tea and there is no really proper wavetable creator software for OSX out there (at least nothing for a beginner like me).
Here's what I plan on doing.

1) Create sounds in other synths.

2) Sample them.

3) Load them into Falcon.

4) Mix, mangle, grain and butcher to taste. Add FX and modulation and put in oven until done.

One portion serves hundreds.

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ThomasHelzle wrote:
pinki wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:What I found funny: I can drag in .exs and .nki files and for a short moment it looks as if they will be imported (the cursor also suggests successful drag and drop), sometimes even a new program is getting created, but it stays empty. So I guess there is either some old import code left or it is a sign that at one point we will see more import options.
Would be very helpful go at least have basic .exs and .nki import.
Can I ask if you are a Mach Five 3 user?

MF3 does indeed support .nki so I am surprised Falcon does not. Note that if the .nki has scripts it will will not import, but basic .nki should. Try importing a blank .nki maybe.
No, I always looked at Mach Five but somehow never got over the threshold. Falcon changed that :-)

Yeah, not sure why that is, maybe it's a licensing thing?
Good suggestions - I'll try removing all scripts and see if that changes anything.

Cheers,

Tom
Falcon do not import foreign sampler format besides SFZ.
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

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otristan wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Can Falcon read wavetables created for Dune 2 too? For some reason my favourites even when the synth is not so advanced for wavtables like Serum f.e.
Would be great since Dune 2 seems to get an own wavetable editor in near future. So i could use it as my wavetable creator maybe. Serum is not my cup of tea and there is no really proper wavetable creator software for OSX out there (at least nothing for a beginner like me).
It depends on the format used by Dune 2.
Are those regular wav file with custom chunk ?
Well, as still a bloody beginner in these things i can´t answer this :scared:
Would it be possible to script such things?

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wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Can Falcon read wavetables created for Dune 2 too? For some reason my favourites even when the synth is not so advanced for wavtables like Serum f.e.
Would be great since Dune 2 seems to get an own wavetable editor in near future. So i could use it as my wavetable creator maybe. Serum is not my cup of tea and there is no really proper wavetable creator software for OSX out there (at least nothing for a beginner like me).
Here's what I plan on doing.

1) Create sounds in other synths.

2) Sample them.

3) Load them into Falcon.

4) Mix, mangle, grain and butcher to taste. Add FX and modulation and put in oven until done.

One portion serves hundreds.
Yep, i do this often. I sampled a lot of my unique tiny iPad synths and put them into Alchemy 2 and Omnisphere 2 to bring them to new life...... now there is a third monster which can do this. And this monster could eat up the other two. Now i know why it´s called Falcon :wink:

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Serum is too expensive as a wavetable editor, Audio-Term has the most convoluted GUI ever...
Any good alternatives for multi-wave-tables?
Would be nice to be able to get multiple slices from longer samples automatically or blends between several.
Harmor for instance allows dropping multiple single-cycle waves into it's editor while holding SHIFT and automatically creates a blended multi-wavetable from them...

I'll try images too, but that looks more "random" than using instrument or sound samples directly...

Cheers,

Tom
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ThomasHelzle wrote:To get a feel for the sample editor I re-created the Imperfect Samples Fazioli Concert Grand (Basic) for Kontakt in Falcon today.
How exactly did you do this? Did you just drag the .nki files, and it worked because they are not scripted? I have some Imperfect Samples libraries and would be very interested if I could play/manipulate them (or other non-scripted Kontakt libraries) in Falcon.

Thanks!

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bharris22 wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:To get a feel for the sample editor I re-created the Imperfect Samples Fazioli Concert Grand (Basic) for Kontakt in Falcon today.
How exactly did you do this? Did you just drag the .nki files, and it worked because they are not scripted? I have some Imperfect Samples libraries and would be very interested if I could play/manipulate them (or other non-scripted Kontakt libraries) in Falcon.

Thanks!
No, I dragged the samples in and re-created the same velocity ranges and groups with Kontakt open behind for reference.
The automatic sample arrangement did not work since the naming system is different from what Falcon offers, otherwise it would have been even faster.
I won't do this for hundreds of libraries, but the Fazioli is my favourite piano ATM :-)
Nicely dark and smooth.

The only import format is .sfz...

Cheers,

Tom
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Is there any reason you can't apply an ADSR envelope to the gains of either the program or the layer?
When I do that, the envelopes get added but don't react and there's only silence.
It only works with the keygroup gain.

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ThomasHelzle wrote:Serum is too expensive as a wavetable editor, Audio-Term has the most convoluted GUI ever...
Any good alternatives for multi-wave-tables?
Would be nice to be able to get multiple slices from longer samples automatically or blends between several.
Harmor for instance allows dropping multiple single-cycle waves into it's editor while holding SHIFT and automatically creates a blended multi-wavetable from them...

I'll try images too, but that looks more "random" than using instrument or sound samples directly...

Cheers,

Tom
Audio-Term is a little strange to get into, at the beginning, I agree, but once you pass over the strange GUI and conventions, it is a great sample mangling tool and wavetable creator. Well worth the effort, IMO. And it has no alternatives (besides Serum, which would be overkill to get "just" for wavetable creation and editing)
Fernando (FMR)

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Karten wrote:Is there any reason you can't apply an ADSR envelope to the gains of either the program or the layer?
When I do that, the envelopes get added but don't react and there's only silence.
It only works with the keygroup gain.
Because layers and programs don't work per voice, only keygroups do.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Karten wrote:Is there any reason you can't apply an ADSR envelope to the gains of either the program or the layer?
When I do that, the envelopes get added but don't react and there's only silence.
It only works with the keygroup gain.
Because layers and programs don't work per voice, only keygroups do.

Too add to that, FX like delay/reverb/chorus should not be inserted on keygroup level as it will kill any CPU on this planet. Other things like ring modulation, filters, waveshaping, effect racks with several filters embedded can of course work per voice played and can use key follow modulation.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Karten wrote:Is there any reason you can't apply an ADSR envelope to the gains of either the program or the layer?
When I do that, the envelopes get added but don't react and there's only silence.
It only works with the keygroup gain.
Because layers and programs don't work per voice, only keygroups do.

Too add to that, FX like delay/reverb/chorus should not be inserted on keygroup level as it will kill any CPU on this planet. Other things like ring modulation, filters, waveshaping, effect racks with several filters embedded can of course work per voice played and can use key follow modulation.

And to add to that: if you insert LFOs on Layer/Program level to modulate things like filters or FX speeds and so forth, use monophonic LFOs to modulate them as layers and programs can't retrigger per voice.

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^ Thank you Simon for all of the above. :tu:

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