Studio One 5 Available Now (5.3 Out June 29th, 2021)

[chk071]

Studio One's documentation is much better than a lot of other software these days.

Wish they'd updated this one - it's very convenient to use but still for 4.5 (which means it's 95% valid, but still...):

https://s1manual.presonus.com/Content/Introduction.htm

Isn't that the same one which comes with Studio One?

[wuworld]

Does it really matters how he looks like and how old he is???

He obviously thinks it is, as he puts himself out there when he doesn't need to. After a couple of his videos, I started skipping to where the screenshots started. He only does intros to camera, he doesn't impart any actual knowledge until you get to the screen captures. And some of those intros are 90 seconds or more, 90 seconds none of us will get back. It would be so nice to watch a video where you just got the info you came for, no plugs, no pleas to subscribe or anything else - just information from 0:00 to the end of the video. In fact, someone asking me to subscribe is a solid-gold guarantee that I will not. f**k you - make a good video and you won't need to ask, I'll subscribe because I want to.

Anyway, after watching 20 videos on Friday night, I got stuck in for a couple of hours last night and managed to bring two songs over from Orion without any problems at all. I did manage to make Studio One crash but it was probably my fault - I tried to replace an instrument while the song was playing - so I can avoid it in the future. There are things it doesn't do as well as Orion but there are other things it does really nicely that make up for those others. Overall, my initial impression is very positive and I have managed to overcome the learning curve much more easily than I had expected.

Still, it is a lot of work changing flagships, there will be 40 or more songs that will need to come across before I can really start using it as my primary host, and plenty more after that before I can abandon Orion and/or Cubase.

Wow! I am playing back the songs I've moved over and I actually think they sound better in Studio One than they do in Orion. There seems to be a bit more clarity in the mix, which could be down to me having to re-do it last night but it's possible Studio One is just doing a better job of summing the audio. Whatever it is, I am impressed.

I think the point is to learn certain features of Studio One from Gregor. What does it matter how he looks? Did you learn something or not? Gregor covers things that are not in the manual (Presonus Sphere) Maybe you aren't understanding the modern day music techniques, and workflows on how producers work today and not 10 years ago. You can say what you want, but you will be going back watching his videos when you don't know how to do something with Studio One.

[antic604]

Isn't that the same one which comes with Studio One?

Yes, I think it comes with it as a .html file that it pulled up whenever you press F1.
But the one above is the on-line version of it and I couldn't find one for v5

[chk071]

Yeah, it looks like the online manual isn't up yet. I just searched too.

[BONES]

I saw over on Reddit that you can get a Studio One 5 Professional Crossgrade from any DAW for £150 until the end of the month.

I heard the same thing but there is no indication of it on their site so I am not sure what's going on.

I think the point is to learn certain features of Studio One from Gregor. What does it matter how he looks?

You'd have to ask him because, as I said before, he's the guy that thinks we need to see him. All the info comes in the part of the video where you can't see him so he definitely doesn't need to be seen.

Maybe you aren't understanding the modern day music techniques, and workflows on how producers work today and not 10 years ago.

I'm probably using it better than you can. It ain't rocket science, all you need to learn is where the tools are. After that, the accumulated knowledge of 36 years takes over.

You can say what you want, but you will be going back watching his videos when you don't know how to do something with Studio One.

No, I won't. The documentation is much faster, more convenient and easier to find what you need to know. Watching the videos gave me a sense of the workflow, I doubt I'll need that again now that I'm up and running. There are some absolutely brilliant Cubase videos, the Studio One stuff I've found isn't anywhere near the same standard.

[chk071]

No, I won't. The documentation is much faster, more convenient and easier to find what you need to know.

That's the problem I have with tutorial videos. When I'm looking for a specific thing, they won't deliver, because I can't find what I'm looking for easily and quickly.

I'm afraid tutorial videos are rather something for the "I need to be served" crowd.

[wuworld]

I saw over on Reddit that you can get a Studio One 5 Professional Crossgrade from any DAW for £150 until the end of the month.

I heard the same thing but there is no indication of it on their site so I am not sure what's going on.

I think the point is to learn certain features of Studio One from Gregor. What does it matter how he looks?

You'd have to ask him because, as I said before, he's the guy that thinks we need to see him. All the info comes in the part of the video where you can't see him so he definitely doesn't need to be seen.

Maybe you aren't understanding the modern day music techniques, and workflows on how producers work today and not 10 years ago.

I'm probably using it better than you can. It ain't rocket science, all you need to learn is where the tools are. After that, the accumulated knowledge of 36 years takes over.

You can say what you want, but you will be going back watching his videos when you don't know how to do something with Studio One.

No, I won't. The documentation is much faster, more convenient and easier to find what you need to know. Watching the videos gave me a sense of the workflow, I doubt I'll need that again now that I'm up and running. There are some absolutely brilliant Cubase videos, the Studio One stuff I've found isn't anywhere near the same standard.

36 years and where has that gotten in the music industry? You sound bitter. If you feel you can do better than Gregor with videos and showcasing Studio One (Atom etc) then post it. I know that presonus employess Rick, Ryan, and others read this forum.

[rageix]

I heard the same thing but there is no indication of it on their site so I am not sure what's going on.

Seems to be an upgrade though Pluginboutique using code: f6460a6l. Also it's 153 GBP, which is ~$200 USD.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AudioProductio ... rossgrade/

Edit: Just tried it, indeed code does work: £153.70 or $199.01 USD.

[BONES]

At least I got my second-hand license cheaper than that, or I might be slightly annoyed.

That's the problem I have with tutorial videos. When I'm looking for a specific thing, they won't deliver, because I can't find what I'm looking for easily and quickly.
I'm afraid tutorial videos are rather something for the "I need to be served" crowd.

Some are much better than others. e.g. Some go to the trouble of listing the times for various features so you can jump straight to what you're after. I think it comes down to the motive of the person making the video - far too many seem to be shameless self-promotion or an attempt to make money from something they are shit at, rather than any genuine desire to help others.

36 years and where has that gotten in the music industry?

A no. 1 album, a no. 2 single and the chance to travel around the world performing. Way, way more than I could ever have dreamed of when I bought my first synthesiser in 1981.

Little to old to be bitter don't you think because customers like yourself can't even operate the Presonus Atom or activate Studio One software.

First of all, old and bitter go together in most people's mind but, most importantly, I am not bitter about anything. Like I said, I have achieved more in my music endeavours than I could ever have dreamed of. Of course, I find it very hard to operate an Atom because I don't think I have ever seen one. The thing is, though, that I am not so hidebound that I need an outboard controller to do what my mouse can do 10 times better, just so I feel like I'm doing something special. The special comes out of my speakers.

[gentleclockdivider]

I saw over on Reddit that you can get a Studio One 5 Professional Crossgrade from any DAW for £150 until the end of the month.

I heard the same thing but there is no indication of it on their site so I am not sure what's going on.

I think the point is to learn certain features of Studio One from Gregor. What does it matter how he looks?

You'd have to ask him because, as I said before, he's the guy that thinks we need to see him. All the info comes in the part of the video where you can't see him so he definitely doesn't need to be seen.

Maybe you aren't understanding the modern day music techniques, and workflows on how producers work today and not 10 years ago.

I'm probably using it better than you can. It ain't rocket science, all you need to learn is where the tools are. After that, the accumulated knowledge of 36 years takes over.

You can say what you want, but you will be going back watching his videos when you don't know how to do something with Studio One.

No, I won't. The documentation is much faster, more convenient and easier to find what you need to know. Watching the videos gave me a sense of the workflow, I doubt I'll need that again now that I'm up and running. There are some absolutely brilliant Cubase videos, the Studio One stuff I've found isn't anywhere near the same standard.

Didn't you switch to cubase just a year ago ( for the first time ) ?
Am I right in thinking you mostly used hardware + orion for the past decades , and your first ( serious ) daw was cubase since recently .
I wonder what accumulated knowledge you have gathered over the past 35 years ( because we're talking specifally about daw's here ) ?

[wuworld]

New Presonus Article-https://www.225batonrouge.com/our-city/ ... Z7l2NcAGFE

Jim Odom says "Odom says the company’s next ventures will also be toward consumer-focused products—i.e., more of the kind that the average person can use. But PreSonus keeps the details on new tech under wraps until the debut."

Consumer focused products as in what?

[wuworld]

At least I got my second-hand license cheaper than that, or I might be slightly annoyed.

That's the problem I have with tutorial videos. When I'm looking for a specific thing, they won't deliver, because I can't find what I'm looking for easily and quickly.
I'm afraid tutorial videos are rather something for the "I need to be served" crowd.

Some are much better than others. e.g. Some go to the trouble of listing the times for various features so you can jump straight to what you're after. I think it comes down to the motive of the person making the video - far too many seem to be shameless self-promotion or an attempt to make money from something they are shit at, rather than any genuine desire to help others.

36 years and where has that gotten in the music industry?

A no. 1 album, a no. 2 single and the chance to travel around the world performing. Way, way more than I could ever have dreamed of when I bought my first synthesiser in 1981.

Little to old to be bitter don't you think because customers like yourself can't even operate the Presonus Atom or activate Studio One software.

First of all, old and bitter go together in most people's mind but, most importantly, I am not bitter about anything. Like I said, I have achieved more in my music endeavours than I could ever have dreamed of. Of course, I find it very hard to operate an Atom because I don't think I have ever seen one. The thing is, though, that I am not so hidebound that I need an outboard controller to do what my mouse can do 10 times better, just so I feel like I'm doing something special. The special comes out of my speakers.

[kurviak]

New Presonus Article-https://www.225batonrouge.com/our-city/ ... Z7l2NcAGFE

Jim Odom says "Odom says the company’s next ventures will also be toward consumer-focused products—i.e., more of the kind that the average person can use. But PreSonus keeps the details on new tech under wraps until the debut."

Consumer focused products as in what?

I think it’s following the idea of the previous paragraph on the article: streaming, videoconferencing and related things

[BONES]

Didn't you switch to cubase just a year ago ( for the first time ) ?
Am I right in thinking you mostly used hardware + orion for the past decades , and your first ( serious ) daw was cubase since recently .

Yes, we switched to Cubase about 18 months ago, when they were having their half-price anniversary sale.

Orion was our first serious DAW and with it we produced our first four albums. We only use hardware on stage. Every album has been done completely with softsynths with one exception - I sampled a loop from my microX for a song on our third album.

I wonder what accumulated knowledge you have gathered over the past 35 years ( because we're talking specifally about daw's here ) ?

Are you seriously suggesting that nothing you learn in a real studio, and I've spent a lot of money on studio time over the years, has any use when working ITB? That nothing you learn with real synthesisers, rack-mount effects and hardware mixers translates to softsynths, software effects and virtual mixers? Because if that is what you're suggesting, you're an idiot. All those things are just tools, once you know how to use those tools you can use them to leverage what you know about patching, mixing and mastering and that stuff remains the same, no matter the environment.

Consumer focused products as in what?

As in iPad apps instead of serious tools for professionals. Think the difference between a Roli Seaboard and the new Lumi Keys Roli are about to release.

[wuworld]

Didn't you switch to cubase just a year ago ( for the first time ) ?
Am I right in thinking you mostly used hardware + orion for the past decades , and your first ( serious ) daw was cubase since recently .

Yes, we switched to Cubase about 18 months ago, when they were having their half-price anniversary sale.

Orion was our first serious DAW and with it we produced our first four albums. We only use hardware on stage. Every album has been done completely with softsynths with one exception - I sampled a loop from my microX for a song on our third album.

I wonder what accumulated knowledge you have gathered over the past 35 years ( because we're talking specifally about daw's here ) ?

Are you seriously suggesting that nothing you learn in a real studio, and I've spent a lot of money on studio time over the years, has any use when working ITB? That nothing you learn with real synthesisers, rack-mount effects and hardware mixers translates to softsynths, software effects and virtual mixers? Because if that is what you're suggesting, you're an idiot. All those things are just tools, once you know how to use those tools you can use them to leverage what you know about patching, mixing and mastering and that stuff remains the same, no matter the environment.

Consumer focused products as in what?

As in iPad apps instead of serious tools for professionals. Think the difference between a Roli Seaboard and the new Lumi Keys Roli are about to release.

The ipad apps are just part of it, and was discussed months ago via Studio One's user group. A presonus executive chimed in. They have other stuff in the pipeline other than the consumer stuff.