NI Komplete 14

[noiseboyuk]

Btw, 1st time ever I'm upgrading to a lesser bundle. I've been Komplete Ultimate customer since forever. But this one, meh. Still, they got 199€ from me so it can't be THAT bad

That's interesting that they let you do that - it always used to be prohibited.

I'm up for 14CE in the half price sale next summer.

[soulata]

If it weren't for Kontakt I wouldn't bother with upgrading. I need the thing to be scalable. It's bloody tiny on a 32.5 inch.

[LoveEnigma18]

Bought K12 Standard.

Q: is it possible to download the existing libs before 27th?

Kontakt 7 won't be there for some time but other libraries have been available for quite some time.

Won't be home for a while that's why I'm asking.

Btw, 1st time ever I'm upgrading to a lesser bundle. I've been Komplete Ultimate customer since forever. But this one, meh. Still, they got 199€ from me so it can't be THAT bad

k

I think there might be some confusion here. For 199 it's not an "upgrade" but an "update" from a previous Komplete Standard version. So, while you may have the Ultimate version, the K14 Standard was probably an Update for you from a previous standard version lying in your account - double check your NI account. But if you only ever had one FULL license of Komplete Ultimate (and no Standard license) and you still upgraded to K14 Standard, that's a pleasant surprise. I assume you requested for it manually? As I am not seeing that option available for selection. This is something people have been requesting on NI forums, so it would be very nice if that's possible.

Regarding your K14 question, unfortunately, you can't, because there is no serial number for K14 products yet. The only products you will see in Native Access 2 will be for any previous Komplete products in case you have a license for that Komplete version/s.

[soulata]

It's an update then. No special deal.

[WatchTheGuitar]

It's an update then. No special deal.

The interesting question in there was how did you go from Komplete ?? Ultimate to Komplete 14 Standard for $199 or did you mean you had ultimate, but bought a separate copy of Komplete 12 Standard to upgrade?

I think there's a lot of us who have ultimate and don't want to pay the exorbitant upgrade fee for the features added, but do want Kontakt 7 etc. NI have up to now said the only way to do it is to sell your copy of Ultimate on a market like KVR marketplace or similar and buy Standard standalone.

How did you do it?

[soulata]

I have Komplete 12 Ultimate. One of the options while buying K 14 Standard was 599€, the other one 199€. That's all there is to it I'm afraid.

[LoveEnigma18]

I have Komplete 12 Ultimate. One of the options while buying K 14 Standard was 599€, the other one 199€. That's all there is to it I'm afraid.

You have possibly chosen a wrong update/upgrade here. I'd suggest getting in touch with NI Order Support team. What you said is actually not possible (you can't go from K12U to K14 Standard). I mean you could buy it, but it won't work. If you are logged in before buying, the shop actually shows if that's the correct version for you, which I'm afraid is not in your case.

[mabian]

I had a Komplete Standard Upgrade (from a library) and then I upgraded again to Ultimate over the years.
I can now choose between update to Komplete Standard 14 or to Ultimate 14 thanks to this.
It's interesting to notice that CE updates to 14 now are possible from both CE 12 or CE13, while when 13 was released CE update only was possible from CE12 and not CE11...

- Mario

[chk071]

I'm really having a laugh at the moment about the drama here and on NI's forum about Absynth. For years and years and years, you hardly hear anything about the synth, and it never saw a Apple M1 native update anyway, and now all and sundry cries their heart out about their loss.

There's really something very strange and wrong about forum people.

Yes, I'm sure some wil be sincerely sad about the discontinuation, but, I really don't get all the drama. It still works, and it will work in 10 years from now, at least if you own a OS which doesn't deprecate everything the whole time. People should really get a grip on themselves. Strange, strange peeps these days.

[LoveEnigma18]

I had a Komplete Standard Upgrade (from a library) and then I upgraded again to Ultimate over the years.
I can now choose between update to Komplete Standard 14 or to Ultimate 14 thanks to this.
It's interesting to notice that CE updates to 14 now are possible from both CE 12 or CE13, while when 13 was released CE update only was possible from CE12 and not CE11...

- Mario

Because there was no CE11 after all. CE started with Komplete 12.

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I will repeat again (3rd time on KVR?), if you are into NI and Komplete, ALWAYS have a Standard and (if you want) an Ultimate version of Komplete registered in your account, as it gives you a lot of flexibility in updating/upgrading. Now, since we have CE has well, it's also nice to one CE (in the form of an upgrade/update), for Updating to newest CEs in future. I think once you are on a CE, it would always be best to stick to CE otherwise you may lose some content due to things getting shuffled. Being on CE ensures you have all the products released for that Komplete version.

For reference, my base Komplete versions are: Komplete 8 (Full), Komplete 8 Ultimate (Upgrade from Standard), and Komplete 12 Ultimate Collectors Edition (Upgrade from Ultimate).

For Updates/Upgrades, it doesn't matter if the base version is full or an update/upgrade itself.

Hope it helps someone.

[martinjuenke]

I'm really having a laugh at the moment about the drama here and on NI's forum about Absynth. For years and years and years, you hardly hear anything about the synth, and it never saw a Apple M1 native update anyway, and now all and sundry cries their heart out about their loss.

There's really something very strange and wrong about forum people.

Yes, I'm sure some wil be sincerely sad about the discontinuation, but, I really don't get all the drama. It still works, and it will work in 10 years from now, at least if you own a OS which doesn't deprecate everything the whole time. People should really get a grip on themselves. Strange, strange peeps these days.

I strongly agree
This drama attitude of some grumpy old men is ridiculous.

[ralfrobert]

I'm really having a laugh at the moment about the drama here and on NI's forum about Absynth. For years and years and years, you hardly hear anything about the synth, and it never saw a Apple M1 native update anyway, and now all and sundry cries their heart out about their loss.

There's really something very strange and wrong about forum people.

Yes, I'm sure some wil be sincerely sad about the discontinuation, but, I really don't get all the drama. It still works, and it will work in 10 years from now, at least if you own a OS which doesn't deprecate everything the whole time. People should really get a grip on themselves. Strange, strange peeps these days.

I strongly agree
This drama attitude of some grumpy old men is ridiculous.

I agree, too. But I also have to say there are reasons to be disappointed: (1) Little innovation. (2) Focus on soundpacks. (3) Bananaware. (4) Other effects related to cash-in policy, venture capital, "big" company.

What I am missing in the whole discussion are people who are happy with what V13 already offers; I'm late to the Komplete game, will stay back one release, got it for cheap and received a truckload of toys which are "new" to me and will give me a lot of pleasure, I hope. But that's because I do not want the "brand new", therefore buggy and not-ready stuff, but rather something "old", fixed, and ready for music-making.

My 2c, nothing more.

[LoveEnigma18]

I'm really having a laugh at the moment about the drama here and on NI's forum about Absynth. For years and years and years, you hardly hear anything about the synth, and it never saw a Apple M1 native update anyway, and now all and sundry cries their heart out about their loss.

There's really something very strange and wrong about forum people.

Yes, I'm sure some wil be sincerely sad about the discontinuation, but, I really don't get all the drama. It still works, and it will work in 10 years from now, at least if you own a OS which doesn't deprecate everything the whole time. People should really get a grip on themselves. Strange, strange peeps these days.

I strongly agree
This drama attitude of some grumpy old men is ridiculous.

Agree as well. But if nothing else, people now have a new topic of M1 compatibility to debate about, isn't it?

[chk071]

I'm really having a laugh at the moment about the drama here and on NI's forum about Absynth. For years and years and years, you hardly hear anything about the synth, and it never saw a Apple M1 native update anyway, and now all and sundry cries their heart out about their loss.

There's really something very strange and wrong about forum people.

Yes, I'm sure some wil be sincerely sad about the discontinuation, but, I really don't get all the drama. It still works, and it will work in 10 years from now, at least if you own a OS which doesn't deprecate everything the whole time. People should really get a grip on themselves. Strange, strange peeps these days.

I strongly agree
This drama attitude of some grumpy old men is ridiculous.

I agree, too. But I also have to say there are reasons to be disappointed: (1) Little innovation. (2) Focus on soundpacks. (3) Bananaware. (4) Other effects related to cash-in policy, venture capital, "big" company.

I rather see the issue with the target audience these days. NI is the biggest company in the business, and, they wouldn't be if they didn't cater to the biggest audience. If people want to criticize them for focusing on sample and sound packs, they should criticize today's audio software audience.

Of course, NI could also focus on odd and extremely complex synths, and see how that turns out. They would most likely have to fire 99.9% of their staff, and keep a mere 2 or 3 developers, but, hey, at least they're heroes then in KVR Audio's eyes.

[Vortifex]

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