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Alex Cremers wrote:Yesterday I played with the demo, sound is impressive, the looks are gorgeous, but it's probably the most CPU hungry VSTI that I've ever encountered.



Alex
CPU Wise it's on par with the Synthix or some Oxium patches. (And when I made a cover of Jarre oxygen I used more than 10 Synthix presets without having to freeze anything on my old Q9650 antique PC)

It also dépends on presets, and on what you actually play ( V+ has 49 notes polyphony so with long release times the real number of acie voices at a gien moment can grow vey fast, and this is especially true wit some arpegiatted presets with fast rates )

This said this what the V+ will give you :

•One finely tweaked and emulated Top Octave Divider aliasing free oscillator, providing up to 49 voices of polyphony.
•Access to a lot of parameters which its hardware model kept secret under the roof.
•One strings section.

•One human voices section.
•One 10 bands vocoder.
•A virtual keyboard ( from which notes can be saved in your presets).
•An Advanced Stereo Space effect.
•A simple but nice sounding reverb.
•A Analog like resonant Phaser.

•Up to 6 free assignable modulation nodes, with up to 14 sources and 24 destinations.
•A special Glide function.
•A finely tweak analog-like pitch tracker.
• All parameters are MIDI controllable

Human Voices need up to 14 filters, and the strings need another 7, the Ensemble is actualy a complex architecture of several BBD units. And all this is modelled in the V+ with the greatest accuracy. The reverb is simple, but yet has an open sound, so not the kind of boxy amnbiance you can encounter in some software instruments.

Add all this, and I think these are reasons why the V+ sound is so appealing a soon as you play it. Xils full and organic, living sound. And why, yes, the V+ has a certain CPU cost.

I'd really suggest to anyone interested in the V+ to try one of the demo versions ( With or without dongle ) and see i it fits their needs, and what is the CPU print on their system.

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xavier wrote:Hi

I'm currently doing some tutorial videos explaining how to use the XILS V+ vocoder (including Sidechain) on various music application.

For the moment, Protools (using AAX), Cubase (using VST3), Reaper (using VST24) and LIVE (AU) are done. I plan to also do Logic (using AU), DP and some other a little later (feel free to post your wishes)

Here are the firsts (sorry if there are some English clumsy sentences or misspellings, it was done quite quickly ).

In these tutorials, I'm using two audio contents to also explain how to feed the XILS V+ with external synth.
As I also want to use these contents for the Vocoder modulator, the result is obviously not very good (using a audio content as a carrier can't produce good vocoding results), anyway it was not the purpose !

Protools (AAX plug-in)





Cubase (VST3 plug-in)




Reaper (VST2.4 plug-in)




Ableton LIVE (AudioUnit or VST2.4 plug-in)




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Xavier
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Hi Theo,

Which DAW (sorry, you must wrote it, but I didn't read 100% of te last pages) ?

Best
Xavier

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I'm running logic 9.1.8 in 32 bit mode with osx 10.8.3 and the vocoder is working fine for me. (Using either a guitar track as the carrier or a different soft synth.)

I'm using the fully licensed elicenser version.

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TheoM wrote:Logic 9.1.8 Xavier. Mountain Lion 10.8.3

I've been able to use another audiounit synth of my choice as a carrier to blen with a vocal sidechain, with my four other vocoder products. I only can't get it working with Xils :(
Hi Theo,

Here is a short video showing with Logic, how to use the XILS V+ with an external synth.
Unlike most of the DAW I tried, Logic doesn't allow you to control an effect with MIDI using two audio inputs.
Either you insert it in an Audio track as an effect, then you can have two Audio inputs (Effect input and SideChain input) but no MIDI control, or you insert it in an instrument track as a MIDI controlled effect and then you only have one input (the Sidechain)




Best regards
Xavier

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ontol wrote:I am having an issue (Win7/64) in PT10 where many of the buttons all move at the same time: you click one, a half-dozen of them change state.

I am also about to run out of demo time.

I posted on the Xils forum, and while getting some replies, nothing to address the button issue. I listed all the buttons that seem to be connected on xils forum.

Hopefully I can find an answer before the window on this closes.
Hi,

I answer you in our forum, but here is the answer (other could have the same issue here)

I just check it in PT10 (mac) and PT8 HD (windows XP ) and all seems to work fine so far.

I must download and install PT10 on my windows 7 64 bits system to complete the test, but I'm sure I will get the same results.

So I think I'm missing something here, as I can't reproduce these "linked" faders.
Do you have a hardware table connected to protools ? Or something not usual in your setup concerning automation ?
(I think this is related to the automation)

Maybe you can test it with AAX , using the new PT10 free upgrade (because of the new signing process )

Best regards
Xavier

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The VST3 global tuning is off by 0.240, so for example playing an E results in somewhere between F and F#. I compared it to the VST2 and the VST2 is accurate.
My host is Cubase 7 32 bit, system OS X 10.7.5. Let me know if you'd like any more info. I'm curious if anyone else is having this problem - sorry if it's already been brought up, looked around this and the XILS forum and couldn't find any mention.

Congrats on this beautiful synth btw. It is a real joy to play!

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evo2slo wrote:The VST3 global tuning is off by 0.240, so for example playing an E results in somewhere between F and F#. I compared it to the VST2 and the VST2 is accurate.
My host is Cubase 7 32 bit, system OS X 10.7.5. Let me know if you'd like any more info. I'm curious if anyone else is having this problem - sorry if it's already been brought up, looked around this and the XILS forum and couldn't find any mention.

Congrats on this beautiful synth btw. It is a real joy to play!
Thanks for this report.
I was aware that the sample frequency of the VST3 was not updated correctly.This means that at 88.2 kHz, it plays one octave above.
(already fixed, but waiting for an other fix before publish it)
I will check this one (maybe related to the pitch bend)

Thanks for you support, much appreciated

Best regards
Xavier

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xavier wrote:
evo2slo wrote:The VST3 global tuning is off by 0.240, so for example playing an E results in somewhere between F and F#. I compared it to the VST2 and the VST2 is accurate.
My host is Cubase 7 32 bit, system OS X 10.7.5. Let me know if you'd like any more info. I'm curious if anyone else is having this problem - sorry if it's already been brought up, looked around this and the XILS forum and couldn't find any mention.

Congrats on this beautiful synth btw. It is a real joy to play!
Thanks for this report.
I was aware that the sample frequency of the VST3 was not updated correctly.This means that at 88.2 kHz, it plays one octave above.
(already fixed, but waiting for an other fix before publish it)
I will check this one (maybe related to the pitch bend)

Thanks for you support, much appreciated

Best regards
Xavier
I was at 48 kHz, so that explains it. Switched to 44.1 and now it's right on. Happy to hear there's a fix on the way.

Been messing with the vocoder and it is way too much fun! Thanks for the tutorials, very helpful. :)

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The audio demos sound truly lovely, but I'm having a hard time convincing myself this needs to be in my arsenal considering I have ELS Vocoder, The Mouth, Vokator, and Vocodex, plus the string machine covered nicely by DCAM's Amber. Sure, it could be nice to have the strings and vocoding done in one place... but is it worth spending $128 for? I'm worried that my love of vocoders is pushing me toward something I may not use much... I'll probably download the demo today but has anyone here done a comparison with ELS?
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It can drive my Athlon64 6000+ (3GHz) mad, but it's a ~6 year old cpu. I'm still waiting for Intels new Haswell architecture... ;)
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