Waldorf Pulse 2: officially released (OS updated to v1.18)

[Ingonator]

Ingo, all you have to do is refuse to post anything that breaks the nda...ppl can beg as much as they want

I thought taht this is the obvious solution...


Ingo

[namnibor]

Total respect for NDA's or otherwise!

Wanted to ask this: With Waldorf Blofeld's *really nice* graphical LCD and specifically, graphically drawing envelope curves, filter drives, et al--is/was this not utilized in the Pulse 2 due to the largely analog nature of it? Not a deal breaker but that's a lot of 'LCD real estate' occupied by huge program numbers and relatively small parameter change feedback. (not amount of parameters) Being a really visual person, that sure would be nice if implemented.
That visual feedback instead of numbers alone has convinced more than a few people in my circle to BUY a Blofeld because it's definitely the BEST LCD user interface combined with the logical matrix programming grid.

Thanks.

[faun2500]

[chk071]

The guy from Amazona seems pretty nervous. No wonder if you don't do stuff like that very often...

[FreqStatus]

Here's a demo of creating a patch on the Pulse 2. Another video is coming soon, which will be a full fledged demo. Until then, hopefully the video below will show some people how quick, intuitive, easy, and fun the Pulse 2 is to program!

I really enjoyed spending time with this synth. It beats all of the other new synths in my book because of the modulation options. For example, the Bass Station 2, MS20 Mini, Minibrute, etc. all lack internal audio rate Oscillator FM. Not only can the Pulse 2 do nearly everything you can expect from an old school monster analog, but it can also do new stuff like using the audio input as a modulator!

Anyways, this patch shows some of that beautiful modulation creating a dirty bass patch... Enjoy:

[rockreid]

wow.. care to share that preset at 1:50? my goodness....

[acidfever]

I have to admit that I feel that this is strange behaviour from Waldorf restating NDA and beta testing rules.

All of the input coming from end-users is aimed at making the unit better and/or solving design flaw to begin with (the parameter stepping really is a design flaw in a modern analog!).

There have been several suggestions for making the unit a lot better (better use of the LCD and implementation of 14 bit parameter depth as an example) and I cannot see how some feedback to the community that provides input for these issues/suggestions could harm anything.

In the end the best products on the market originated from a combination of a solid manufacturer and listening to user feedback.

I'm not asking Ingo to provide us with details, but since a Waldorf employee has been posting on this forum it would be a nice idea if Waldorf at least provides feedback about looking at some possibilities mentioned here.

[Ingonator]

The fact that giving informations about current developments is resticted by NDA is not related to the fact that users could of course give bug reports and or feature requets.
Also the fact that not every current development should be dicussed in public does also not mean that Waldorf ignores requests done here or in other forums.


Ingo

[faun2500]

that's a lot of 'LCD real estate' occupied by huge program numbers and relatively small parameter change feedback. (not amount of parameters)

Thanks.

Yes this was discussed before and I personally think it is backwards. Can't imagine you will need a huge program number like that( I know some will say live), how many people will use this live vs in the studio.

I think big numbers and small everything else was a bad design choice.

Just saying

[FreqStatus]

wow.. care to share that preset at 1:50? my goodness....

It's quite easy to do on the Pulse 2! That's why I like it... gnarly sounds like that all day. I think it was basically created by making a sawtooth osc go too low, so that it "flapped" and then having another oscillator fill out the octave above to make it actually have some tone... then add in filter FM (Osc 3 -> Filter) for grit. I have a terrible memory, but that's what I would try first if I tried to make it again (this was a completely improvised video). If we bring out the demo unit again, I'll try to snag the patch and upload it (or just make it again when I buy my own).

As far as NDA and all that, sounds pretty standard to me. I'm not sure why it was even mentioned at all. Hopefully Waldorf is listening. It would behoove them since they have had what seems like a tough time, but finally have a solid and desirable product on their hands. Then again, it doesn't seem like they are flying off the shelves, so we'll see. I'm a fan of the company, personally.

Anyways, here's a full demo now:

[bobborries]

(this was a completely improvised video).

That demo was close to the experience I had when a checked it out at the store. Rich, Bassy, with a spectral high end, FreqStatus really shows off the synth's special qualities and was really well recorded.

There's lots of youtube demos with garbage sound which makes the pulse sound like a software synth (sorry LESINDES), this is certainly not the case when you hear it in person.

[EvilDragon]

that's a lot of 'LCD real estate' occupied by huge program numbers and relatively small parameter change feedback. (not amount of parameters)

Thanks.

Yes this was discussed before and I personally think it is backwards. Can't imagine you will need a huge program number like that( I know some will say live), how many people will use this live vs in the studio.

I think big numbers and small everything else was a bad design choice.

Just saying

Let's repeat it again!





Parameter feedback galore. Smaller program number. If somebody wants envelope, LFO and filter shapes, be my guest.

[namnibor]

Late last night was on a German website that I now am having trouble locating in my saved favorites but will post link to the FTP Server Discussions of the previous incarnation of Waldorf's development at time of the Q still becoming a mature O.S.--sorry, of course cannot locate it readily this minute.

But I recall reading specifically about how they (Stefan and Wolfram, others) were talking about how each of the Q's voices were based on the Pulse.
Specifically, I read that the midi resolution of Classic Pulse is 7 bit and back then in late 90's there was speculation about higher resolution 14 bit midi as what has been talked about on this thread.

With that said, and nothing indicative that the last official O.S. update of the 2.01 e-prom for Pulse upgraded that, it would seem that Waldorf would indeed wish to keep the new Pulse 2 as backward compatible with Classic Pulse as possible, which may mean midi resolution as well?!

(edit) Here's the link that will take anyone interested to rather lengthy communication about midi/resolutions, and of course a LOT of other cool stuff/communication amongst Waldorf in the Waldorf Q O.S. 2.15 era (3.02 is Final, use 3.00 or 3.01 if you wish to retain Arp/Seq Midi out, as was totally lost in final O.S. which fixed midi issues with Multimode)
http://www.sequencer.de/waldorf/waldorf2.html

Will freely admit that am not a coder or computer guru nor anywhere near an expert on midi resolution, so have no idea how that would work with two machines with potentially different resolutions.

It was also stated more than once that the Q keyboard's plethora of knobs that all send midi cc's, can easily program the Pulse. Shall see, as my yellow Q keyboard *just arrived* and already made espresso as just know will not be sleeping tonight!!

[acidfever]

that's a lot of 'LCD real estate' occupied by huge program numbers and relatively small parameter change feedback. (not amount of parameters)

Thanks.

Yes this was discussed before and I personally think it is backwards. Can't imagine you will need a huge program number like that( I know some will say live), how many people will use this live vs in the studio.

I think big numbers and small everything else was a bad design choice.

Just saying

Let's repeat it again!





Parameter feedback galore. Smaller program number. If somebody wants envelope, LFO and filter shapes, be my guest.

I still think is is one of the most usefull additions Waldorf could make to the Pulse 2 and to be honest I don't understand why they chose a big lcd while hardly displaying any data........

[Softknobs]

i need MIDI patch dump to work via USB, as it did in v1.11 !!!

The lack of any Program Dump Request SysEx command is a big one too. the Implication is that without a dump request message you manually must send a prog dump after changing progs from any remote editor/software in order to send the current program's parameter values to the editor/sw.

I am surprised by these comments, since this appears to work. I have been dumping sounds remotely through USB with OS version 1.05, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12 and 1.13 with no problems...