KVR Audio

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:47 pm

I am not that rich to have separate computers for making music and surfing the web.

When a window like this

greets you every time you start Bitwig, it can be very annoying.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:59 pm

lesha wrote:it can be very annoying.

Of course. We all hate when that happens, nobody more than the support guys.

But if it does happen, your best bet is to contact tech support if you aren't into solving problems yourself (or reading forums) and try to find out with it's help what's wrong.

But what's going to get solved from running around forums and post on several threads that Bitwig Studio is broken?

I'm happy to leave you alone BTW.
I personally am just as fine if you solve the problem or not.
You are just as welcome to use Bitwig Studio or something else.
I just don't understand what you are trying to achieve here?

Cheers,

Tom

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:05 pm

You are right. I should just shut my mouth and enjoy the other DAW.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:07 pm

I dunno, I can see both of your points. It's up to you to work it out.

I have ups and downs with bitwig and cpu. At least it's not spiking like fl and S1! I've noticed a really large increase if you simply use mulit outs.

BTW, I run at a fairly intensive rate. 48k and a 64 buffer (so lovely for guitar/bass playing!) but I'm a one man show with limited creativity, thus not necessary very many tracks. Plus, one of the things I like about bitwig (and I'm right in the middle of a piece doing this) is having one instance of a synth open, making a part, alt dragging to bounce, and then repeating with many different parts. Then it's chop chop time and using pitch/pan/etc to frack with it as interestingly as I can.

Not that this helps either of you, just saying.

goatgirl · Post by **goatgirl** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:16 pm

lesha wrote:I am not that rich to have separate computers for making music and surfing the web.

When a window like this

greets you every time you start Bitwig, it can be very annoying.

I had a similar issue when using windows WASAPI drivers. I got it working by going into control panel > sound then de-selecting exclusive mode in the playback and recording advanced tabs. Maybe it works for you too.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:17 pm

hibidy: With multiouts it's important to only create those you really need, especially if you for instance use the default Kontakt which has 64...

So either delete the ones you don't use when you are using "Add Missing Chains" or if you know you only need 3, just create them to order with "Add Chain".

What I also often see is, how easy it is to get lost in the depths of dozens of layers and
slots and whatnot, that can easily add up to quite brutal amounts of devices.

The DSP meter may at one point show individual devices to give a better overview where the power is consumed...

But yeah, whavever works

Cheers,

Tom

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:29 pm

goatgirl wrote:I had a similar issue when using windows WASAPI drivers. I got it working by going into control panel > sound then de-selecting exclusive mode in the playback and recording advanced tabs. Maybe it works for you too.

Thanks for the advice, but that unfortunately didn't fix the problem. I am using ASIO in BWS and I don't see why it should interfere with other drivers.

goatgirl · Post by **goatgirl** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:49 pm

lesha wrote: Thanks for the advice, but that unfortunately didn't fix the problem. I am using ASIO in BWS and I don't see why it should interfere with other drivers.

Well ASIO has to take over a device, it's like that. It can be either your onboard sound device or an external audio interface. Either way it can still usually output to the external device, so some weird windows setting may be the cause .. who knows?

There are many things to consider and if you want it solved you may have to provide actual screen shots of audio settings in Bitwig and Live. That way someone may be able to spot what is going wrong for you, especially if they have a similar setup.

Also its worth restarting your DAW when you change device settings, then there is less chance of things carrying over and not working.

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:03 pm

Or make a new partition just for audio. Install windows there and install only Live and Bitwig there, so you can be sure that no other program is interfering with your Audio stuff.
Install plugins then and compare.

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:12 pm

As i said in the other thread, check your sample rates. Very few audio interfaces can handle doing asio+wdm+different sample rates (the only one I know off of the top of my head are the NI interface drivers). Most other ones at best can only handle asio+wdm while they are at the same sample rate. Thats how I have to run my scarlett, if I set my windows volume mixer settings to use a samplerate different from ableton/s1/etc, then wackiness can and has ensued

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:42 pm

Ok, ontopic again

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:45 pm

haha!

@Thomas, thanks.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:49 pm

ezelkow1 wrote:As i said in the other thread, check your sample rates. Very few audio interfaces can handle doing asio+wdm+different sample rates (the only one I know off of the top of my head are the NI interface drivers). Most other ones at best can only handle asio+wdm while they are at the same sample rate. Thats how I have to run my scarlett, if I set my windows volume mixer settings to use a samplerate different from ableton/s1/etc, then wackiness can and has ensued

Using the same sample rate for everything.

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:58 pm

HDMI Audio drivers should be disabled. Check that.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:26 pm

JoseC. wrote:HDMI Audio drivers should be disabled. Check that.

Disabled.

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