Record: New DAW from Propellerheads

[Wavedude]

This program looks awesome! I cant wait to try it. At first I didn't mind not having a perfect audio mixing program to counter act with Reason, but now that this is here, it looks like I might be a total propellerhead fanatic.

[John Vulich]

Funny, Ableton seems to have overcome these concerns. They have both a built in interface component for plugins and a separate window.

Call me when Ableton overcomes the workflow concern.

I think the workflow is just fine. Then again workflow is a subjective thing. What problems do you have with it?

[shamann]

Anyone know yet if Record can export recorded audio tracks to individual .wav files? Say for instance I really like the way Record records, but then want to use those tracks in a more robust mixing/post-processing app.

http://www.propellerheads.se/products/r ... annels.jpg

Thanks.

[kmonkey]

How nice...This is probably most transparent, clever, silent and wise introduction of dongle to any application (Reason) ever!!!

They just released most wanted feature for Reason (simple audio recording), better mixer (finally), few new FX and all this as "new" product which can be *surprise* tightly connected with Reason . And it does have a dongle...

Wow...

[hseiken]

Propellerheads will sell lots of ReCord because of two things:

Clever marketing that makes already available technology seem 'super new!' or 'cool' and 'pro'

and

Nice graphics.

Reason's never been worth what they charge and if you really READ their pitch on their website for reason, it is obvious overhyping and just plain cut-throat marketing at people who like 'technology words' and those who don't know any better. When you couple that with it's pretty (though small) graphics, it's a no brainer why they are as successful as they are. Even ReBirth was old hat when it was made. There were several 303, 808 and 909 emulators out that were realtime before it hit the world. It just looked the prettiest and had them together. Propellerheads has never been cutting edge, they just do the same shit other people do but differently and more polished.

Some people think that's worth the ridiculous prices for their stuff. I don't. That's why I bought my copy of Reason used.

[v1o]

It would be one hell of a huge project to create a 400meg file. Like nearly an hour & a half of pure audio.

Are you joking? A 400mb audio project is nothing. Mono 44.1 is 5 mb per minute so when you start getting into the higher sample rates it's quite easy to have hundreds of mb of audio in a project with multiple takes.

44.1 * 24 mono tracks in a 5 minute song = 25mb per track X 24 tracks. Do the math. One mono take per track of continuous "live band recording".

Then do it again at 88.2 (12 tracks) or 96k (fewer still). Then make some of those tracks stereo. Then do a second take of the tracks to double the needed disk space. Then do 10 harmonies of backing vox.

You must be joking. You obviously don't record much multi-track audio. My Cubase sessions routinely go into the GB ranges which is why I backup to DVD and not CD... many won't fit on a single 700mb CD.

This is a multitrack audio recorder right?

400MB is roughly 40 mins of 44.1Khz stereo. When compressed by halve it becomes 80 mins of audio. I doubt that there'd be many people composing tracks more than 30 mins long.

If you want to use 24/96 then you pay the penalty of larger file sizes. 400MB will get you about 20 mins of 24/96 compressed.

You really don't understand the concept of "multi-track" in the least bit... do you?

Actually I think maybe you didn't quite get what I'm saying. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm talking about of the "sum" of all audio data in the file. So 80 mins of audio data means twenty (4 minute) stereo tracks or forty mono tracks.

[djanthonyw]

I'm suprised that there are actually people that stick up for and prefer dongles. I wonder if they also voluntarily walk around with a ball and chain attached to their ankle...

[DRS]

What struck me the most is that all the whiners cannot see that Record is just another redundant/non-revolutionary tool. They have the urge to come over to KVR/Props forum to bash anybody who doesn't think every Props project is the holy grail for music production.

Lol, see? I can perfectly understand the joke without the need to bash you.

Relax, its a messageboard. The point of this place IS to talk, no? I was following the thread with interest because I expected something amazing. I realized it wasn't and made the appropriate comments. I wasn't on a vendetta to bash the Props

No probs!

My rant wasn't directed to you (i shouldn't have quoted you, actually). It was more like a general rant aimed at those more exalted and aggressive ones .

[ehdyn]

I'm suprised that there are actually people that stick up for and prefer dongles. I wonder if they also voluntarily walk around with a ball and chain attached to their ankle...

You don't derive your income from the development of an application that is being actively pirated.

[spaceman]

47 pages

[TristezaOrange]

48

[TristezaOrange]

Damn, if KvR had comic timing, now we'd be on the 48th page.

[koolkeys]

I'm suprised that there are actually people that stick up for and prefer dongles. I wonder if they also voluntarily walk around with a ball and chain attached to their ankle...

Because it's not about the dongles. It's about the software. If I have multiple tools as options, and the best option for me happens to use a dongle, I'll choose that software any day. I buy tools based on what they do, not what protection they use. I don't think anyone will say they prefer a dongle to no copy protection at all. That doesn't mean choosing a dongle is a bad choice.

I couldn't replace all my tools that use dongles with non-dongled options. And I don't go around wasting my time on a crusade to prove a point to developers, especially when they make good software. And it's not like I'm the only one. Most of the professional music making world has one dongle or another. Why? They choose better tools for their way of working instead of missing out to prove a point.

Also, people seem to forget that online P2P file sharing is only a portion of the overall "pirate" community. Dongles DO prevent people from sharing software with their friends, as does other copy protection. Not everyone who uses illegal copies gets it from a crack site. Many, if not most, just pass something they bought between friends.

Brent

[ModuLR]

Honestly I wish developers as a whole *would* develop more focused tools. Many of us don't have a need for a tool that does everything. I wish more developers wouldn't cave to the needs of the masses, and instead would really pursue their vision (but I know, money is always the crutch). This might be why I have this weird appreciation for devs that kinda tell the users to f*ck off if they don't like where it's going. Why? because users sometimes facilitate steps which unknowingly destroy great ideas. If I'm painting, i'd get real irritated if people kept telling me what colors to use. Instead maybe my painting is for those who's palette the color appeals already. If you like something else, well there are tons of other artist to select from. Ok, kinda that was a semi-tangent and not quite apples to apples... but whatevers.

[TristezaOrange]

I have this weird appreciation for devs that kinda tell the users to f*ck off if they don't like where it's going.

The you must love Image Line.