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Novalis · Post by **Novalis** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:51 am

Some people are starting to sound here like a desperate broke guy in a strip club

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:54 am

Novalis wrote:Some people are starting to sound here like a desperate broke guy in a strip club

I'm not desperate for anything and I'm certainly not broke........

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:57 am

Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:We will show more as we get closer, I'll see what we can and cannot show.

I guess my point is it's all going to revealed at some point in the not too distant future so why wait ? Again with the goal of keeping interest high....

neverenoughfunk · Post by **neverenoughfunk** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:43 pm

there is two features that i hope Sampletank 3 has... a "shuffle" function (a way to shuffle patches/sounds) and a way to flip thru patches/sounds without touching the mouse or looking at the computer monitor i.e. thru midi or keystroke... i would like to know if anyone has gone thru all the synth patches in Sonic Synth... i know for myself... i usually start browsing patches/sounds from the top or bottom of the list(s)... those middle patches/sounds i do not think i ever touched... a "shuffle" function would be great!!!

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Teksonik wrote:I guess my point is it's all going to revealed at some point in the not too distant future so why wait ? Again with the goal of keeping interest high....

I guess his point is that IK has a roll out plan in place, so why not just wait and see as they reveal the details.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:57 pm

neverenoughfunk wrote: ... i would like to know if anyone has gone thru all the synth patches in Sonic Synth... i know for myself... i usually start browsing patches/sounds from the top or bottom of the list(s)...

Yes, I have, but I tend to have a different form of 'attacking' that feat.
(Probably due to working in multiple music stores and attending more than few NAMM shows, where you have to get to the 'skinny' as quickly as possible, and then let the SR show you what they've been taught to show you after).

But I go through each in sections more than once. This is easier in SS2 than most synths, since they clearly mark the categories so well. First in a very transitory way often playing single notes or specific open chords just to get a feel for the sounds supplied. Noting anything that catches my interest. Second time around, I go to those that caught my interest. Let the sound evolve into something for me, maybe teak a parameter here and there, and find out the ease of use. (Although I rarely save any edit/tweaks at this point.) Because the GB worked like it did, I spent a couple of weeks or more exploring SS2. I wasn't expecting anything great for the price and was extremely surprised (perhaps because of the lack of expectations). I can't say I use it much now, but more than the S-Moog & S-Tron. I mostly use ST & MSO as my go to IK-VIs. But I do still go through it from time to time, although I have a list of favorites I tend to head for now. Hopefully they will keep working on it too. It really is a little powerhouse of a synth.

24MTS · Post by **24MTS** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:46 pm

Teksonik wrote:
24MTS wrote: I merely said it's good for nothing to ask more than it's possible to get at this time AND it is stupid to put down a product not even presented yet, let alone tested and prove unworthy.
Who are you to say what's possible ?

Someone who is able to use common sense and happen to understand a simple thing like timing for various stages when releasing a product.

And note that I did not compliment the unreleased product, here ST3. Or maybe you meant something else. But I do have high expectations, like anyone else and I am very optimistic for what will come. So, I find difficult to accept all the non-sense that was expressed by some in these last 40 something pages. I think Peter from IK is well deserving a raise for remaining calm and cool.

And this is enough about this.

Peace out.

aslaton1 · Post by **aslaton1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:01 pm

I wonder if sampletank 3 will allow us to open multiple combis in one sampletank instance and the ability to create realistic guitar strumming patterns.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:40 pm

i have a few questions that i don't expect to get a reply from IK (other than the usual "wait and see, can't post anything now"), but still would like to ask just in case i do get a reply (and to keep speculations going!)

so far we know that SampleTank isn't Kontakt - that is, it's not supposed to replace Kontakt, so it won't have scripting and those ultra-detailed complex scripts, complex editing et al. so, what is SampleTank 3?

and by that i mean, is it still a rompler a-la SampleTank 2? is it the same concept of taking up as little RAM as possible and reusing the same sample across several keys as opposed to in-depth multisampling every note? we know it'll have articulations and round-robin, but how detailed will that be?

also, what about third-party developers? will the only prominent content producer still be Sonic Reality, or there will be others as well? will it be easy for developers to create libraries for SampleTank 3, will it offer good facilities to produce realistic results? will it offer a good-enough copy protection so that things don't end up on torrents few hours after release (at least for third-party devs, IK doesn't seem to be bothered by it much)?

so, overall, what are the concepts behind SampleTank 3?

that said, whatever it will be, i'm sure it'll be as great as other IK stuff i came to love so much (including SampleTank 2) and i have my wallet ready

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:57 pm

I wonder if someone will be able to make music with ST 3, as all other VST, DAW, instrument, and app seems to be broken right now.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:01 pm

BMoore wrote:I wonder if someone will be able to make music with ST 3, as all other VST, DAW, instrument, and app seems to be broken right now.

You know, now that you mention it ... it's been almost 20 years since anything approaching a decent song has been written. That seems to coincide with the availability of DAWs and VSTs. Coincidence?

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:03 pm

Burillo wrote:i have a few questions that i don't expect to get a reply from IK (other than the usual "wait and see, can't post anything now"), but still would like to ask just in case i do get a reply (and to keep speculations going!)

so far we know that SampleTank isn't Kontakt - that is, it's not supposed to replace Kontakt, so it won't have scripting and those ultra-detailed complex scripts, complex editing et al. so, what is SampleTank 3?

and by that i mean, is it still a rompler a-la SampleTank 2? is it the same concept of taking up as little RAM as possible and reusing the same sample across several keys as opposed to in-depth multisampling every note? we know it'll have articulations and round-robin, but how detailed will that be?

also, what about third-party developers? will the only prominent content producer still be Sonic Reality, or there will be others as well? will it be easy for developers to create libraries for SampleTank 3, will it offer good facilities to produce realistic results? will it offer a good-enough copy protection so that things don't end up on torrents few hours after release (at least for third-party devs, IK doesn't seem to be bothered by it much)?

so, overall, what are the concepts behind SampleTank 3?

that said, whatever it will be, i'm sure it'll be as great as other IK stuff i came to love so much (including SampleTank 2) and i have my wallet ready

Great questions!
I would venture to offer my opinon on the third party design only. It just seems on that we will have to 'wait and see' which sound designers take up the new VI and think it worthy of doing content for. Lessons learned from Dimension and DSF, the lack of others can become its 'swan song' into abandonware.
But just the fact that ST3 is coming does promise a renewed interest in it for many and hopefully, that will mean third party sampling/sounds as well.

ScottZ · Post by **ScottZ** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:32 pm

Burillo wrote:also, what about third-party developers? will the only prominent content producer still be Sonic Reality, or there will be others as well? will it be easy for developers to create libraries for SampleTank 3, will it offer good facilities to produce realistic results? will it offer a good-enough copy protection so that things don't end up on torrents few hours after release (at least for third-party devs, IK doesn't seem to be bothered by it much)?

Kontakt doesn't seem to be any much different in this regard? I'm all for this, but please don't make it a pita for users.

HM · Post by HM » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:47 pm

Effect powerhouse in a sound workstation. SampleTank 3 incl over 50 FX - w/ over 20 new effects

So they just blew off these words on FB ,.. "sound workstation"

Is it the before mentioned fussion with Bitwig comming ?

That would explain the year-long silence in both camps

A workstation use to be a place where a hole project can be finished

Hangman85 · Post by **Hangman85** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:12 am

Would anyone (ie Peter!) be able to tell me whether or not there will be any sort of discount for people who owned the likes of Miroslav Philharmonik? I will be almost certainly purchasing Sampletank 3 largely to be able to use Miroslav in a 64 bit environment. (I never owned sampletank 2).

Countdown to Sample Tank 3, with 64 bit support