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mgw38 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:17 pm
neverbeeninariot wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:19 pm
mgw38 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:26 pm That does not exist in any other DAW out there [...]
I hate to be that guy, but Reaper can do this. :P
I should have mentioned that I do not consider Reaper to be a real DAW. Lol. :clown:
:hihi:
But seriously, I actually have a Reaper license and do use it quite a bit. Just not for regular music production.
I have licences for both (and a couple of others) but personally I've not yet found a compelling enough reason to switch (from Reaper). Horses for courses. 8)

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sQeetz wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 am It's just fun to play with for a time and then take what you've done with it somewhere else. :ud:
Sounds like my workflow: use other tools creatively and then bring whatever I create with them into Studio One. Although much of what I create does originate in Studio One.
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sQeetz wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:11 amHow so? Nested menus... options over options...
Can you remember anything in particular? I've not encountered anything like that.
You put a 4k monitor and a 1080p side by side (each one, let's say 27 inch) each one on their native resolution being fed an appropriate signal and tell me that the 4K does not look sharper, than I must say that you need f**king glasses.
Well, we trialled 4k monitors at work against similarly priced 2.5k monitors, two sets of dual 27"s, and we unanimously decided to get the lower res screens because they had better contrast. Both looked similarly sharp. If I was working on a 40" screen then, yeah, 4k would make sense but if you can't run it at 100%, then it's the wrong res.
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BONES wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:00 am
sQeetz wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:11 amHow so? Nested menus... options over options...
Can you remember anything in particular? I've not encountered anything like that.
Like I said, I have uninstalled it. Just remember there being too much options. Too much stuff I didn't care about/need.
Well, we trialled 4k monitors at work against similarly priced 2.5k monitors, two sets of dual 27"s, and we unanimously decided to get the lower res screens because they had better contrast. Both looked similarly sharp. If I was working on a 40" screen then, yeah, 4k would make sense but if you can't run it at 100%, then it's the wrong res.
Well, then you must have set up something wrong, because every time I use a regular, non 4k screen the difference is clear as day.
Of course, if you buy similarly priced screens, the 2K one is going to be of better quality (better contrast).
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sQeetz wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:11 am
BONES wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:38 am You have got to be kidding me? Bitwig is at least as convoluted as S1, often moreso.
How so? Nested menus... options over options....
Where? The options dialog is very spartanic, and, I haven't really come across many places where there are nested menus either... maybe you mean the editing tools.

I rather think that you didn't give it enough time to get accustomed to it.

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chk071 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:50 amWhere? The options dialog is very spartanic, and, I haven't really come across many places where there are nested menus either... maybe you mean the editing tools.

I rather think that you didn't give it enough time to get accustomed to it.
Probably. Bottom line is that I didn't like working with it, so I didn't really put an effort.
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Fair enough. :)

TBH, that's how I always felt when opening Live (or Bitwig). :D

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sQeetz wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:46 amLike I said, I have uninstalled it. Just remember there being too much options. Too much stuff I didn't care about/need.
That will be true of every host but what I really like about S1 is that it's so easy to ignore all the stuff you don't need. My GUI is down to just the top/bottom toolbars, the arrange window and the mixer. It's all I need to work, yet the rest is just a click or two away.
Well, we trialled 4k monitors at work against similarly priced 2.5k monitors, two sets of dual 27"s, and we unanimously decided to get the lower res screens because they had better contrast. Both looked similarly sharp. If I was working on a 40" screen then, yeah, 4k would make sense but if you can't run it at 100%, then it's the wrong res.
Well, then you must have set up something wrong, because every time I use a regular, non 4k screen the difference is clear as day.
I didn't set it up at all, we have an engineering department for that.
Of course, if you buy similarly priced screens, the 2K one is going to be of better quality (better contrast).
So why waste your money? The thing is you are probably testing your 4k screen against cheaper HD screens, so of course it will look better.
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:16 amSo why waste your money? The thing is you are probably testing your 4k screen against cheaper HD screens, so of course it will look better.
Exactly. You're proving my point. Comparing better 2K monitors against cheaper 4K monitors will lead to the conclusion that the 2K ones have better contrast/color accuracy, etc...
I'm not wasting money, btw. I'm getting more sharpness for the money. How much that is worth for anyone in particular is not your decision to make :)
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For anyone doing visual work a 4K monitor has considerable benefits, so unless I have a dedicated audio set up I'd have a 4k monitor anyway. Actually I have 5K, and it's great.
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sQeetz wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:27 amExactly. You're proving my point. Comparing better 2K monitors against cheaper 4K monitors will lead to the conclusion that the 2K ones have better contrast/color accuracy, etc...
I'm not wasting money, btw. I'm getting more sharpness for the money. How much that is worth for anyone in particular is not your decision to make :)
Sorry, you're just trying to justify a poor choice. You want to say that you get better sharpness but, as I said earlier, our unanimous decision, within a department of 20-odd graphics professionals, was that there was no discernably better sharpness or detail in the 4k screen. Maybe there would have been if we'd run it at 4k but everything was unusably small at native res so we were forced to run at 150% scaling to get a working interface. OTOH, the 2.5k screens were just about perfect at native res. To be honest, I was surprised that everyone agreed with my assessment but even the most diehard pro-Retina zombies picked the 2.5k screens.
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Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:25 pmSorry, you're just trying to justify a poor choice. You want to say that you get better sharpness but, as I said earlier, our unanimous decision, within a department of 20-odd graphics professionals, was that there was no discernably better sharpness or detail in the 4k screen. Maybe there would have been if we'd run it at 4k but everything was unusably small at native res so we were forced to run at 150% scaling to get a working interface. OTOH, the 2.5k screens were just about perfect at native res. To be honest, I was surprised that everyone agreed with my assessment but even the most diehard pro-Retina zombies picked the 2.5k screens.
In order to properly compare both resolutions you'd have to have two identically sized screens set the 4K screen at default resolution (3840x2160) and 200% scaling and the 2K screen to 100% (@ default 1920x1080). Of course the picture will not be satisfactory if you don't set the screen to its default resolution and scaling. And it's also clear why the 2.5K one looked better right out of the box, because the OS was already set to 100%. So the perfect match of screen size, resolution and scaling.
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These are 2.5k screens, 2560x1440. At native res, a 27" 4k screen is unusably small. Menus, toolbars, etc. on our software are too small to interact with, especially with a stylus (which is what most of them use), but also with a mouse with normal settings.

And your point about native resolution is precisely what I mean - you can't use a 27" monitor at 4k, unless you press your nose up to it while you work, which is why everyone wants all their VSTi to have resizable GUIs. And what's the point of doubling the screen res if you have to double the size of your software interfaces in order to be able to use it? You are just creating problems for no benefit. On my 17" HD screen, I generally use resizable GUIs at less than 100% so they very likely take up less room on my little screen than the same plug-ins over-sized GUI does on your 4k screen. So why bother sucking extra GPU power to drive all those pointless extra pixels and make extra headaches for developers who have to make special GUIs just so you can feel good about making a poor decision? It's ridiculous.
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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https://www.audiosteps.de/presonus-vero ... r-features

Features:

Search function on the start page You can now search for songs, projects and shows using a search bar on the start page

Scroll Performance The scroll performance has been improved and now looks smoother. MacOS users in particular will be happy about this improvement.

Track Filter & Channel Filter The track list now also has a search bar that can be used to search for tracks and channels. Track and channel filters can also be created as macros

Secondary ruler In Studio One 5.1 it is now possible to add a second ruler in the arranger. This allows, for example, the display of a time-based ruler under a bar ruler

Markers, arrangers, signature keys and chords can now also be activated simultaneously in the editor as rulers via a selection field.

Signature Track This ruler shows you the main key of individual passages

Score Printing With Studio One 5.1 and Notion, scores can now be saved as PDF files and printed

Retrospective Record This new recording function records your entire performance, such as automation, modulation, pitch bends, etc.

External instruments: The external instruments function has now been integrated into the show page.

New Effects for Ampire and Pedal Board Plug-Ins: The Studio One Stock Plug-Ins Ampire and Pedalboard get another update. Both plug-ins get two new pedal effects: Gate and Compressor. Effects can be moved between the ampire and pedal board via drag & drop to the other plug-in.

New ATOM controller features: The PreSonus Impact XT controller “ATOM” has some new features such as scales, navigation for the browser, and user-defined commands with 4 preset banks.

That's not all of the features. PreSonus will tell us about the great features waiting for us in Studio One 5.1 for the release on October 20, 2020. We will keep you updated.

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