Diva Vs. Real Analog

[whyterabbyt]

I don't really care what you think or believe.
I hope you don't mind me thinking I once owned a Prophet 5 though.
Or does that in some way offend your sonic snobbery?

You're on drugs aren't you?

[trimph1]

There is only difference. No hierarchy here...

But... but... how... how will you be able to claim you're more l33t than anyone else?

l33t?

[Urs]

Yeah its all cool Urs.
Like I said I am a fan of Zebra and perhaps when funds become available I'll prolly blag Diva but Diva really needs a computer hardware upgrade in my case.

And I've reached far beyond the stage where sound quality is that important to me.
As I said before I wish you all the best with Diva even though imo I still think its a little overpriced.

Yes, the hardware upgrade might be a required follow on cost. Give it two years though, then i7 or newer will be the common ground.

We wanted to price it below Zebra but still high enough to open the possibility to put it on store shelves in shops. With online distribution we can only reach so and so many people, so we need to consider boxed as an option in future.

Also, we figured that it's still a competitive price compared to similar products. I furthermore believe that undercutting everyone else creates a lot of trouble: One needs to make more sales, thus requires more support staff. Thing is, I spent my days mostly on support ever since we have released the first beta. With the lower sales rate of now I can have a quiet vacation and concentrate on development when back...

Urs

[aquar]

I don't really care what you think or believe.
I hope you don't mind me thinking I once owned a Prophet 5 though.
Or does that in some way offend your sonic snobbery?

You're on drugs aren't you?

Who isn't ?


But really I think you are bang out of order for taking an old thread where I said I loved the sound of the Prophet5 and somehow tried to stitch me up.

Ive never said I loved the sound of the Native Instruments version.
Just shows how forum users can twist and distort to taste based on a few words.

[whyterabbyt]

But really I think you are bang out of order for taking an old thread where I said I loved the sound of the Prophet5 and somehow tried to stitch me up.

You didnt mention the Prophet5, just the Pro5. It was your second favourite VSTi, don't you remember?

In response to "What is your favourite VSTi?"

Z3ta+
Even though it sounds digital to the extreme to my ears.
The Pro5 is a very close second, I think both Vst's compliment each other very well though.

The Z3ta+ imo is a misunderstood Vst due to the strange interface, obviously there's a learning curve involved but it becomes rewarding once you get your head around it.
As for the Pro5, well its very much a what you see is what you get kind of synth but I just love the unique sounds it generates with a little tweaking.

No-one stitching you up except you.

[Kriminal]

But really I think you are bang out of order for taking an old thread where I said I loved the sound of the Prophet5 and somehow tried to stitch me up.

Ive never said I loved the sound of the Native Instruments version.
Just shows how forum users can twist and distort to taste based on a few words.

so which software version of the P5 were you talking about when you said

Z3ta+
Even though it sounds digital to the extreme to my ears.
The Pro5 is a very close second, I think both Vst's compliment each other very well though.

[Kriminal]

too much cross posting, i'll leave WR to it, he can type faster than me

[goldenanalog]

No worries

We might have had a break even before the introductory offer went out. Until then we maybe sold 20 Divas a day on average, but ever since we only sell one or two, with the occasional third inbetween. We will have to suspend the living of 3 developers, Howie and our newly added Chacka (support/soldering) from this, and similar figures from Zebra/ACE/Uhbik, salted with a monthly sale of Filterscape/MFM2. And that's before taxes, Adwords/ads and fees (amounting to about 60% of revenues).

I'm happy to have a comfortable buffer on my bank account again, which almost dried out last year. May wife and I are in the age where the average German/Aussie has built a house or bought a flat, has a car each and paid well into a pension fund. We still rent, we still have a single 13 years old car and we still have below minimal pensions. We live well though. Good food, nice holidays, enough movement.

I do admit however that the value created at u-he is a different story, using common methods to estimate the worth of a business (e.g. value = annual revenues * x). If I wanted to sell out, I wouldn't need to work anymore. I just wouldn't know what to do with myself. I rather continue. More fun.

Cheers,

Urs

I just hope that we're worth it, Urs.

[trimph1]

Urs: I'm saving my money over the next little while to purchase this little synth...as soon as floor wars pt 2 is done ....

[aquar]

whyterabbyt and Krim

You are still taking things out of context.
Show me a single thread where I said I loved the sound of the Native Instruments version of the Prophet5.

Sure I was impressed with the Pro5 at the time when all we had is a limited set of soft synths but I maintain my position.

The fact that either of you aren't able to comprehend what I am saying suggests that you arent very open to honesty but that's not my problem more like your own
experience of being shit on by dishonest people and quite frankly that's not my fault.

[Urs]

I just hope that we're worth it, Urs.

Let's put it that way. I simply value hugs and synths more than houses and cars.

[whyterabbyt]

The fact that either of you aren't able to comprehend what I am saying suggests that you arent very open to honesty but that's not my problem more like your own
experience of being shit on by dishonest people and quite frankly that's not my fault.

I really think your dishonesty is your fault. Quite frankly.

[Kriminal]

whyterabbyt and Krim

You are still taking things out of context.
Show me a single thread where I said I loved the sound of the Native Instruments version of the Prophet5.

Sure I was impressed with the Pro5 at the time when all we had is a limited set of soft synths but I maintain my position.

The fact that either of you aren't able to comprehend what I am saying suggests that you arent very open to honesty but that's not my problem more like your own
experience of being shit on by dishonest people and quite frankly that's not my fault.

i didnt say you liked the NI pro5, i quoted you saying you loved the pro5 vst....hence i asked which version


its my problem you refuse to acknowledge what you wrote yourself in the first place

[aquar]

The fact that either of you aren't able to comprehend what I am saying suggests that you arent very open to honesty but that's not my problem more like your own
experience of being shit on by dishonest people and quite frankly that's not my fault.

I really think your dishonesty is your fault. Quite frankly.

I beg to differ. Your are just insecure imo.
But as I said several posts ago this thread isn't about me or you.
Its about Diva and I've said all I am going to about what I think about it and its pricepoint.
I'll be more than happy if you take up your beef with me about the Pro5 in another thread but for now its time to move on unless of course you want to talk more bullshit.

oh and you too Krim.
Just read your post same deal.

[Meffy]

Does any of this matter enough to spend this much time arguing? There's better stuff to do, Shirley. [/LeslieNielsen]